Anti-Hell Pastor Rob Bell Now Fully Supports Gay Marriage

Sodom and Gomorrah

by NTEB News Desk

Laodicean Pastor Rob Bell Plunges Further Into Apostasy
Controversial faith leader Rob Bell spoke over the weekend at Grace Cathedral in San Francisco, Calif., where the former pastor openly endorsed gay marriage. When asked about the controversial issue by The Very Rev. Dr. Jane Shaw, who was moderating the event, he offered up a clear and concise response – one that will serve as a surprise to many conservative evangelicals.

“Yes, I am for marriage. I am for fidelity. I am for love,” he said, going on to get more specific. “Whether it’s a man and a woman, a woman and a woman, a man and a man — and I think the ship has sailed and I think the church needs to just — this is the world we’re living in and we need to affirm people wherever they are.”

Bell also addressed the political association that is generally attached to American Christians. Rather than embracing the notion that most believers are conservative in nature, he said that dynamic no longer holds true.

“I think we are witnessing the death of a particular subculture that doesn’t work. I think there is a very narrow, politically intertwined, culturally ghettoized, Evangelical subculture that was told ‘we’re gonna change the thin’ and they haven’t,” Bell said. “And they actually have turned away lots of people. And I think that when you’re in a part of a subculture that is dying, you make a lot more noise because it’s very painful. You sort of die or you adapt.”

The pastor and author went on to say that some of the methods that Christians have used to discuss God have not been inclusive and have done little to bring people into the fold. He even called some policies that Christians have embraced “destructive” and he called for believers to “repent.”

News of Bell’s gay marriage endorsement was reported on Greg Carey’s HuffPo blog. Carey is a professor of New Testament studies at Lancaster Theological Seminary. In writing about Bell’s shocking claim, he said,

“To my knowledge, Bell’s interview marks the first time that he has openly supported marriage equality and perhaps the first time he has definitively separated himself from politically conservative evangelicalism.”

This won’t be the first time that the pastor makes headlines, though. In March 2011, we reported Bell’s questioning of hell. In September of that same year, Bell announced that he was stepping down from his pastoral position at Mars Hill Church in Grandville, Mich.

The announcement about Bell’s gay marriage views comes as Hillary Clinton made a similar public proclamation on Monday. In January, Steve Chalke, senior pastor at Oasis Church in the UK, also endorsed same-sex marriage, sending shock-waves through the evangelical community. source - The Blaze

WHY I AM NOT A DISPENSATIONALIST John Nelson Darby is recognized as the father of dispensationalism later made popular in the United States by Cyrus Scofield's Scofield Reference Bible. Charles Henry Mackintosh, 1820–1896, with his popular style spread Darby's teachings to humbler elements in society and may be regarded as the journalist of the Brethren Movement. CHM popularised Darby more than any other Brethren author. As there was no Christian teaching of a “rapture” before Darby began preaching about it in the 1830s, he is sometimes credited with originating the "secret rapture" theory wherein Christ will suddenly remove His bride, the Church, from this world before the judgments of the tribulation. Dispensationalist beliefs about the fate of the Jews and the re-establishment of the Kingdom of Israel put dispensationalists at the forefront of Christian Zionism, because "God is able to graft them in again," and they believe that in His grace he will do so according to their understanding of Old Testament prophecy. They believe that, while the methodologies of God may change, His purposes to bless Israel will never be forgotten, just as He has shown unmerited favour to the Church, He will do so to a remnant of Israel to fulfill all the promises made to the genetic seed of Abraham. I am not a dispensationalist; it is unbiblical.

Pastor Rob Bell: There Is No Hell

Stealing your faith
The bible says this about people living in the end times, our time – “For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away [their] ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.” 2 Timothy 4:3,4.

That day, foreseen by the Lord and given to Paul to teach as a prophecy of the future apostasy of the church, has arrived. Who needs “sound teaching” anyway? You get a whole lot more people to fill the pews when you tell them what they want to hear, rather than what the revealed word of God clearly teaches. Pastors like Joel Osteen of the Lakewood Church in Texas have built up a weekly audience of over 15,000 people by telling them that God “wants you to be rich.”

Similarly, Pastor Rob Bell of the Mars Hill church has gained an audience of over 7,000 a week by teaching them “another gospel”. He has just written a book called “Love Wins: A Book About Heaven, Hell, and the Fate of Every Person Who Ever Lived.” The theme of this runaway bestseller? That maybe there is no actual Hell, maybe the bible was only using it to scare us, and that in the end everyone, including Hitler, and pedophiles and Al Capone, all get “reconciled to God”, and no one actually spends eternity in Hell. SPOILER ALERT: If Rod Bell is correct then Jesus is a liar and the bible is a useless book not fit for much of anything.

The rich man didn’t think there was a real Hell, either
The bible is a funny Book, God gives you all the space you want to BELIEVE what He wrote, or to reinterpret His words to suit your own level of disbelief. It’s up to you. But the bible also says that because people refused to believe the Truth, that God would send them a “stong delusion” so that they might “believe a lie”. Jesus taught about the reality of Hell, and warned against it greatly. Listen to the fate of the rich man in Luke 16 who died believing in what Rob Bell teaches.

“And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame. But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.” Luke 16.

Ok, so someone is lying about Hell then. Either the bible is deceiving you, or Rob Bell is. Which is it?

Jesus said repeatedly that Hell is real, Rob Bell says otherwise. Who do YOU believe?

Time magazine makes Rob Bell it’s cover story.
“The standard Christian view of salvation through the death and resurrection of Jesus of Nazareth is summed up in the Gospel of John, which promises “eternal life” to “whosoever believeth in Him.”

Traditionally, the key is the acknowledgment that Jesus is the Son of God, who, in the words of the ancient creed, “for us and for our salvation came down from heaven … and was made man.” In the Evangelical ethos, one either accepts this and goes to heaven or refuses and goes to hell. Bell, a tall, 40-year-old son of a Michigan federal judge, begs to differ.

The traditionalist reaction is understandable, for Bell’s arguments about heaven and hell raise doubts about the core of the Evangelical worldview, changing the common understanding of salvation so much that Christianity becomes more of an ethical habit of mind than a faith based on divine revelation.

“When you adopt universalism and erase the distinction between the church and the world,” says Mohler, “then you don’t need the church, and you don’t need Christ, and you don’t need the cross. This is the tragedy of nonjudgmental mainline liberalism, and it’s Rob Bell’s tragedy in this book too.”

Particularly galling to conservative Christian critics is that Love Wins is not an attack from outside the walls of the Evangelical city but a mutiny from within — a rebellion led by a charismatic, popular and savvy pastor with a following.

Is Bell’s Christianity — less judgmental, more fluid, open to questioning the most ancient of assumptions — on an inexorable rise? “I have long wondered if there is a massive shift coming in what it means to be a Christian,” Bell says. “Something new is in the air.” source – Time

Something new indeed
The Time magazine article ends with Pastor Bell, having dismissed the bible doctrine of Hell, smugly retorts that “something new is in the air”. Actually, Mr. Bell, it’s not something new, it’s something as old as the Devil himself. And you do his work when you teach lies and false doctrine, such as you have done with your book, “Love Wins”.

As we said at the start of this article, if Hell is not real, then Jesus is a bald-faced liar. Period. End of story. Now granted, you may not like the idea of a literal, burning Hell, Mr Bell. But your dislike of it does not remove it’s presence.

Indeed, there will be many in your church who, taught there is no Hell, will then rightly conclude on that basis that perhaps there is no literal Heaven, either. And having done that, Jesus Himself becomes a fairy tale. Why would a person like that ever feel the need to get saved? So they can be washed clean of their figurative sins?

No, Mr. Bell, when you remove the doctrine of Hell, you remove the doctrine of Heaven as well. Make no mistake, there will be Hell to pay for the lies you are teaching.

WHY I AM NOT A DISPENSATIONALIST John Nelson Darby is recognized as the father of dispensationalism later made popular in the United States by Cyrus Scofield's Scofield Reference Bible. Charles Henry Mackintosh, 1820–1896, with his popular style spread Darby's teachings to humbler elements in society and may be regarded as the journalist of the Brethren Movement. CHM popularised Darby more than any other Brethren author. As there was no Christian teaching of a “rapture” before Darby began preaching about it in the 1830s, he is sometimes credited with originating the "secret rapture" theory wherein Christ will suddenly remove His bride, the Church, from this world before the judgments of the tribulation. Dispensationalist beliefs about the fate of the Jews and the re-establishment of the Kingdom of Israel put dispensationalists at the forefront of Christian Zionism, because "God is able to graft them in again," and they believe that in His grace he will do so according to their understanding of Old Testament prophecy. They believe that, while the methodologies of God may change, His purposes to bless Israel will never be forgotten, just as He has shown unmerited favour to the Church, He will do so to a remnant of Israel to fulfill all the promises made to the genetic seed of Abraham. I am not a dispensationalist; it is unbiblical.

What does Van Rompuy achieve through his seven-year budget strategy?

EU President Herman Van Rompuy

It is extremely important to note that what Van Rompuy is effectively achieving through his seven year budget strategy (or treaty) is binding the nations of the EU into a single government.

In other words, the 17 governing nations of the EU will hand their authority over to just this one man, through the economy. Just as the word of God said would be the instance the Beast will effectively gain his enormous power and seat of authority through flattery and intrigue.

Then, once the treaty has been signed off on, watch the grey mouse change into a mighty lion to become the despotic leader of the EU the word of God describes him as being.

The timing for the prophecies of Daniel Chapter 9, Verse 27 is not found in the preceding verses of that chapter that relates to the 69 weeks of Daniel.

And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.  (Daniel Chapter 9, Verse 27)

Instead that is to be found in Revelation Chapter 13, where we are told that the Antichrist reigns for one month. Prophetically speaking, one month is 42 months, or three and a half years.

And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty [and] two months. (Revelation Chapter 13, Verse 5)

Even though the signing off on the treaty is one of the most incredulous and mind boggling decisions that mankind has ever made, there has hardly been a whimper mentioned about it in the media.

WHY I AM NOT A DISPENSATIONALIST John Nelson Darby is recognized as the father of dispensationalism later made popular in the United States by Cyrus Scofield's Scofield Reference Bible. Charles Henry Mackintosh, 1820–1896, with his popular style spread Darby's teachings to humbler elements in society and may be regarded as the journalist of the Brethren Movement. CHM popularised Darby more than any other Brethren author. As there was no Christian teaching of a “rapture” before Darby began preaching about it in the 1830s, he is sometimes credited with originating the "secret rapture" theory wherein Christ will suddenly remove His bride, the Church, from this world before the judgments of the tribulation. Dispensationalist beliefs about the fate of the Jews and the re-establishment of the Kingdom of Israel put dispensationalists at the forefront of Christian Zionism, because "God is able to graft them in again," and they believe that in His grace he will do so according to their understanding of Old Testament prophecy. They believe that, while the methodologies of God may change, His purposes to bless Israel will never be forgotten, just as He has shown unmerited favour to the Church, He will do so to a remnant of Israel to fulfill all the promises made to the genetic seed of Abraham. I am not a dispensationalist; it is unbiblical.

We’re entering the 70th Week of Daniel

The Antichrist as he will sit in the temple in Jerusalem

In the early 1990s, when I first began my journey studying and reporting on the end times Bible Prophecies I was not aware of the varying methods for the interpretation for the word of God. My experience was strictly limited to a long history of a literal belief in the Bible as being the infallible word of God. So, what follows is not intended as an argument for a particular method of biblical interpretation. Instead, what I am reporting is the fulfilment of the Bible prophecies based on the interpretation that I have learnt from now deceased preachers of the old school of thought. Simply, there was no one who knew it better.

In the Old Testament book of Daniel we read:
And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. Daniel Chapter 9, Verse 27 (KJV)

I tend to follow that old school of thought mentioned above where it is commonly believed the passage above foretells the rise of a new leader from out of a Revived Roman Empire, the president of the EU, who will confirm, strengthen, or make strong, a covenant, agreement, or treaty, with many for a period of seven years. Israel will be included in this covenant. After 3 1/2 years, the leader will put an end to the sacrifices and cause the oblation to cease. From the book of Daniel, we learn that this leader will appear among a 10-nation alliance (Daniel 7:7-8). Just after coming to power, the leader will subdue three kings from the 10-nation alliance (Daniel 7:24). In the New Testament book of Revelation we are told learn that this leader will be identified by the number 666 (Revelation 13:18).

May it also be noted that the old school of thought mentioned above interprets the above passage from the book of Daniel to refer to a seven year peace treaty in the Middle East. However, if we were to read the passage once again it should be noted that there is nothing at all that is actually said in the passage about a peace treaty. All that it really mentions initially is a seven year treaty. To say that Daniel Chapter 9, Verse 27 is referring to a peace treaty is like those who would say that this verse or that verse refers to a Rapture. However, the word Rapture is never mentioned anywhere in the word of God. In this instance all that is happening is that something is being added to the Holy Scriptures that is not to begin with.

There is a great deal of information on Wikipedia relating to the treaties of the European Union. However, there is really far too much information there to copy and paste here. What I am dealing with specifically are the major treaties that have thus far been ratified which have enabled the European Union to progress thus far. There are only just two major that we need to mention; The Treaty on European Union and Treaty on the functioning of the European Union. However, as we are dealing with the end times Bible Prophecies what we need to be looking for specifically is a seven year treaty of some kind that will enable us to point more directly to that treaty and then say that is the treaty of Daniel. After that we will then be able to confirm the current EU president as being the Beast of Revelation Chapter 13 - the Antichrist.

Until I heard the news the other day that European Council president, Herman Van Rompuy, has clinched a Multi-annual Financial Framework (MFF) for a near one trillion euros budget after proposing a €34.4bn cut over the next seven years there was no sign of a seven year treaty on the horizon. Now of course there is just that. Who is going to ratify the agreement remains somewhat opaque? Nevertheless, we know who it is going to be, the Antichrist, and as it is Van Rompuy’s handiwork it is best left to the imagination of the reader as to just who is going ratify the treaty? Keep in mind also that the Antichrist simply ratifies what others have already worked out and thus far at these series of meetings there has been no sign of Van Rompuy.

Friends, the entire end-time picture may now be right before our eyes. And, it’s my fear that, because of doctrinal differences — some very minor — many of God’s people will continue to be uninformed. There is much more information yet to come. But, in light of all that’s been presented, I don’t think more information should be necessary.

If we’re entering the 70th Week, then we should expect a gradual peace to begin dawning over the Middle East. We should see many of our own religious leaders seduced by the Antichrist. Then three and a half years after the treaty has been confirmed later on this year in June. Expect it all to fall apart as the Antichrist breaks the treaty leading the world into the Great Tribulation period.

MARK MY WORDS WELL WHEN I SAY THAT ONCE THE COVENANT OF DANIEL HAS BEEN SIGNED WATCH THE CHANGE COME OVER THE SIGNORE, WHOEVER HE HAPPENS TO BE? 

Stay tuned!

WHY I AM NOT A DISPENSATIONALIST John Nelson Darby is recognized as the father of dispensationalism later made popular in the United States by Cyrus Scofield's Scofield Reference Bible. Charles Henry Mackintosh, 1820–1896, with his popular style spread Darby's teachings to humbler elements in society and may be regarded as the journalist of the Brethren Movement. CHM popularised Darby more than any other Brethren author. As there was no Christian teaching of a “rapture” before Darby began preaching about it in the 1830s, he is sometimes credited with originating the "secret rapture" theory wherein Christ will suddenly remove His bride, the Church, from this world before the judgments of the tribulation. Dispensationalist beliefs about the fate of the Jews and the re-establishment of the Kingdom of Israel put dispensationalists at the forefront of Christian Zionism, because "God is able to graft them in again," and they believe that in His grace he will do so according to their understanding of Old Testament prophecy. They believe that, while the methodologies of God may change, His purposes to bless Israel will never be forgotten, just as He has shown unmerited favour to the Church, He will do so to a remnant of Israel to fulfill all the promises made to the genetic seed of Abraham. I am not a dispensationalist; it is unbiblical.

God is throwing rocks at the world... it's time to get right with Him before the big one hits!

By Pat Franklin
In the same day an asteroid passed near the earth, a meteor hit Russia, another hit Cuba, and one passed over San Francisco Bay. Is God trying to tell us something? He already told us there is a huge space object on the way, burning and big as a mountain (Book of Revelation chapter 8 verse 8). That asteroid will not miss.

Time to get yourselves ready to go, folks! For anyone who studies Bible prophecy, the message is so clear: time is extremely short. Jesus Christ is coming back, as He promised, for His people. Then this world is going to be judged; God will pour out His wrath on the world which has rejected His Son.

The big asteroid now heading straight for us, undetected as yet by science, is one of the seven trumpet judgements. It is number two. It follows the terrible rain of hail, fire and blood which is the first trumpet judgement and which burns up one-third of the earth. The asteroid hits the sea and one-third of the sea creatures die, plus one-third of the ships are destroyed.

Talk about a 'hard rain coming'! And those are only two of the judgements. It gets worse.

You don't want to be here when that hard rain falls! We've had a little taster in the Russian meteor. Not nice. When God really starts throwing rocks, I want to be long gone.

Some of you might say...I don't want a God who throws rocks at us...

If you feel like that, you do not know our loving, kind, merciful, slow-to-anger Father, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. He has provided a way we CAN know Him as Father, and that way is through accepting the sacrifice of His only Son, Jesus Christ, on Calvary's cross. Jesus took the penalty of all sins of everyone who will trust in Him.
He is the way (to Heaven), the truth, and the life (eternal life which you can have), John 14.

You do not have to be here when the burning mountain hits earth. That is part of God's wrath, His holy anger at our rebellion and wickedness of all sorts. He does not want anyone to perish, but to have eternal life with Him, enjoying all the pleasures He has planned for those who love Him. His will is that everybody comes to faith. Our tragedy is that we do not want His will; we do not want Jesus in our lives; we want to do our own will. God allows us to choose.

Choose today, dear friends, who YOU will serve. Yourself? Keep on in the world's way, struggling on, getting older, not achieving the things you long for. If you don't have God in your life, your highest hope is that when you die there is nothing. Nothing. But there IS something. The Bible tells us: it is for man to die once (no reincarnation), and then the judgement.

The judgement, folks! What will you be judged on? What is the basis of God's judgement?

'Well, I am a good person.' But Jesus said says no one was good except God (and of course He Himself WAS God).

'Well, I wasn't as bad as so and so.' That won't wash. An earthly judge would not let you off a speeding ticket because you didn't go nearly as fast as the next person! A court would not let you go because the amount you stole was not as much as someone else's theft! Justice must be done! The law is the law.

'Well, my good deeds outweigh my bad deeds.' No, that won't work either. The Bible tells us our good deeds are like filthy rags to God if they are not filtered through faith in Christ. It is like offering someone a speck of dirt in exchange for a mountain of diamonds. It is an insult to God. No one is saved by good deeds, lest anyone should boast.

'I know I am not good enough; I am a sinner; I don't deserve anything; but I put my faith in the blood of my Savior, Jesus Christ, which cleanses me of all sin (1 John 1:7).'
It is the last one which is the only ticket to Heaven. Jesus said: 'I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.' John 14:6

Won't you put your faith in Jesus today? Won't you admit you really are a sinner? 1 John 1:10 says: 'If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar and His word is not in us.'

It is not so hard to say: I am a sinner. I've broken God's holy commandments. I deserve judgement.

The night I said those words direct to God, I was all alone, in my bedroom. Over a period of a week and a half, I had read through the gospels of Matthew and Mark, and was about halfway through Luke. I saw in the gospels that Jesus was real, and that I was a sinner. If you will read, you will see that you too are a sinner. God has set His bar so high, none of us can reach it, because we ALL have a sinful nature.

In His great love for us, He sent His Son so that none of us need to perish, but all who believe in Jesus can gain eternal life.

The most famous scripture in the Bible: John 3:16: 'For God so loved the world that He sent His only begotten Son so that whoever believes in Him (Jesus) shall not perish, but have eternal life.'

Dear friends, time is short. The meteor that hit, the asteroid that just missed us...this is serious. God is so patient with us, but time is running out. There is a phrase in the Bible, 'the appointed time'. Jesus came at the appointed time. He will come back at the appointed time. God has a calendar, a plan; He has His own agenda, the 'appointed times'.

The time is very near, we believe, and in our books we give many reasons. Won't you reflect today?

Here is a good prayer, but only if you mean it from your heart: 'Dear God, I am a sinner. I have done, said, thought, bad things. I put my faith in Jesus Christ, who died on the cross of Calvary for my sins. Please, Lord Jesus, wash me clean! Please make me one of Your people!'

WHY I AM NOT A DISPENSATIONALIST John Nelson Darby is recognized as the father of dispensationalism later made popular in the United States by Cyrus Scofield's Scofield Reference Bible. Charles Henry Mackintosh, 1820–1896, with his popular style spread Darby's teachings to humbler elements in society and may be regarded as the journalist of the Brethren Movement. CHM popularised Darby more than any other Brethren author. As there was no Christian teaching of a “rapture” before Darby began preaching about it in the 1830s, he is sometimes credited with originating the "secret rapture" theory wherein Christ will suddenly remove His bride, the Church, from this world before the judgments of the tribulation. Dispensationalist beliefs about the fate of the Jews and the re-establishment of the Kingdom of Israel put dispensationalists at the forefront of Christian Zionism, because "God is able to graft them in again," and they believe that in His grace he will do so according to their understanding of Old Testament prophecy. They believe that, while the methodologies of God may change, His purposes to bless Israel will never be forgotten, just as He has shown unmerited favour to the Church, He will do so to a remnant of Israel to fulfill all the promises made to the genetic seed of Abraham. I am not a dispensationalist; it is unbiblical.

THE ANTICHRIST OF TIM McHYDE

Under no circumstances shall we cave to an American Antichrist: Antichrist is EURO-CENTRIC—final answer!

So, when we get to the post-tribulationist like Tim McHyde, we should be able to expect something a bit different; and, in a way it is—but eventually its “centre of prophetic gravity” resembles the pre-tribulationists in America.

McHyde’s quite a guy – hearty agreement is found in much of what he says—notwithstanding his vociferous defence for charging for his ministry (You have to purchase his book in order to get into what he’s revealing—and if you criticize for “asking” – look out—the “labourer is worthy of his hire” and McHyde will instruct you accordingly!).

Again, and unfortunate as it continues to appear, America will be annihilated by a cataclysmic occurrence—prophetically announced, no less—and, ipso facto, Europe shall ascend, producing the Antichrist, etc., etc., etc.

But, prior to getting into America’s demise—let’s consider McHyde’s probable Antichrist . . . and for sure, he’s head and shoulders above and beyond Dave Hunt’s Antichrist: Mikhail Sergeyevich Gorbachev in Global Peace and the Rise of the Antichrist.

PRINCE CHARLES OF WALES – McHyde’s Antichrist!
Free of charge, I am here to inform you that one amazing case has been patched together to bring his highness to full-bore Antichrist potential.

“He was born in 1948, the same year that Israel became a modern nation. He is a PRINCE (my caps) of the ancient people who came and destroyed the temple in Jerusalem (HAIL BRITANNIA)—the Romans. His lineage chart traces to every great world leader including King David (although British lineage officially dates only to 828 A.D. (King Egbert)); he is referred to as the “son of David.’ His name can be calculated to the numerical value of 666 by the ancient Hebrew method in both English and Hebrew. His calling card visually presents the composite beast made from the body of a leopard, the feet of a bear, and the mouth of a lion. His power, throne, and great authority have been given to him by a red dragon. He wants to lead the European Union (the ancient Roman Empire) and have dominion over all nations. His name is Prince Charles of Wales. He is the leading candidate to be the prophesied antimessiah.

“If you go to another believer (with any prophecy interest) and suggest that Prince Charles is the antichrist, then he will accept your idea right along with UFO alien abductions, one world conspiracy warnings of the illuminati, a hot internet rumor about some girl who dated a terrorist just before the attack, investing in gold coins, long-term storage of wheat in buckets, and the cow jumping over the moon. If the person you speak with has no interest whatsoever in end time prophecy, your suggestion of Prince Charles as the antichrist will confirm his worst suspicions of you being just plain ‘nuts.’ He will end the conversation with a cock-eyed look and the words, ‘Oh really. I need to go now.’ Further, saying Prince Charles IS the antichrist is outright slander and one of the most despicable things you can say of any public figure.” (The Prince Who is to Come, Tim McHyde)

The identity of the Antichrist—will be “unrevealed”—until the declaration of the infamous signature is affixed to the international consignment wherein “the many” shall sign on to his most comprehensive proposal for peace.

However, the Prince of Wales, according to McHyde—although Tim ultimately resigns from a complete distinctive identification of the king in waiting as the Son of Perdition—has the numerical value of “the name of a man.”

“Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for the number is that of a man; and his number is six hundred and sixty-six” (Revelation 13:18) . . . so . . .

“The numbers we use today are Arabic or Roman numerals. Like Hebrew and Greek, English has no numerals of their own. In ancient times, before there were Arabic and Roman numerals, a simple decimal system was used for each letter. That is, the first ten letters were given the value of one through ten in ascending order. The next letter, however, was not an eleven, but instead twenty. Thereafter, each letter was ten more (20, 30, 40, etc.). At one hundred, the letter incremented by 100’s, (200, 300, 400, etc.). Both Hebrew and Greek contain 22 letters. So, the greatest value of any letter (Tav in Hebrew, Omega in Greek) was 400. the ancients simply used letters in place of numbers to indicate numerical values.

“When John wrote his prophecy giving the value of 666 to the name of the beast (antimessiah), the ancients had no difficulty understanding the intent . . . I (am) also a writer and aware of the origins of our English letters and language out of the ancient languages. For example, the first Hebrew letter is an aleph, Greek is alpha, and English is just plain “A.” The English alphabet originates from Greek (alpha beta) and the Hebrew (aleph bet). I was curious as to whether the gematria (numerical values for each letter) would yield any interesting results.

“I limited the system (computer program developed by Tim and a friend) only to the first 22 letters as the ancients had done (Hebrew and Greek only have 22 letters). Once the program was written, I was able to type in all the names for all world figures past and present, calculating the gematria for each with computer accuracy. I had no expectation whatsoever for anyone when I started entering names . . . then it happened. I entered the name ‘Prince Charles of Wales.’ The value displayed was 666 . . . no matter how many times I entered the name, the calculation was the same. Then it hit me. He is a Prince just as the Scripture says.” (The Prince Who is to Come)

McHyde goes on to demonstrate how that the name “Charles” means “man” or “manly.” And, Revelation 13:18 says that the number 666 is that of a “man.” McHyde sites the text, The Antichrist and a Cup of Tea, by Tim Cohen—offered by Lion and Lamb Ministries in which Cohen goes into extensive detail to substantiate his own thesis that the coat-of-arms of the Prince of Wales parallels the description given by John of the Beast in the Revelation.

Likewise, McHyde alludes to Revelation 17:10-11 . . .

“There are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, and the other has not yet come. And when he comes, he must continue a short time. The beast that was, and is not, is himself also the eighth, and is of the seven, and is going to perdition.”

Here, his gymnastics truly baffle . . .

“The reference to seven past kings (five have fallen, one is, and the other not yet come who remains a short while) is a historic description of the Holy Roman Empire. There have been seven Charles’ as Emperors of the Holy Roman Empire. World Book Encyclopedia and other reference documents summarize the history of the Holy Roman Empire by these seven kings. This is a historical fact. But what makes this prophecy such a puzzle is its reference to the beast being “also an eighth, and is one of the seven.” The answer is simple and right before us. They all have the name Charles – Prince Charles will be the eighth when he rules over the ancient Holy Roman Empire (the modern European Union). How is he one of the seven? He is a direct descendant of Charles VI through the Hapsburg line.”

In any event McHyde’s CSI is very extensive—nigh an indictment could be secured. Furthermore, he concludes that since the 11th Horn (which McHyde claims is “different” from the others, which it is) is, according to McHyde, different in the sense that Prince Charles was not elected to his position—whereas the other 10 horns were democratically elected.

THE GLOBALIZATION OF PRINCE CHARLES
A fundamental misunderstanding of virtually all Euro-Centric proponents of Antichrist abides—the United States of America must simply disappear as the world’s foremost super power—because America is simply not on their radar! Economically and militarily—let alone culturally and even religiously—hegemony is overtly occupied by the 800-lb. gorilla sitting in the living room of every home in the world! That monstrosity is envied and bemoaned by the entire earth: The United States of America . . . that doesn’t stop the McHydes of the earth:

“There are two competing models for the definition of world globalism. One is the UN (Note: This is the “biggie” for nearly all pre-millenarian/pre-tribbers, as well as American post-tribulationists.) model and the other European (Note: One simply cannot contemplate any other model, e.g., WTO, WORLD BANK, GATT, IMF, 82nd AIRBORNE, CFR, ad nausea, ad infinitum). The UN wants one great big community of everyone helping everyone. The European model divides the world into three parts: developed nations, developing nations, and undeveloped nations. The European model contends that there are not enough resources in the world for all nations to be developed and, therefore, part of the world needs to be sacrificed to meet the need of the other part. The European model also contends that there is not enough food to go around and the world population should be significantly reduced.”

Furthermore, McHyde points out that the coat-of-arms for Prince Charles is full of history and great meaning. Royal families are identified by their coat-of-arms—families originated their coat-of-arms from the Holy Roman Empire. Now, the Beast in the Revelation is a “composite creature depicting the past: the body is that of a leopard, the feet are from a bear, and the head (mouth) is that of a lion. The emperors of the Roman Empire were from France (leopard), Germany (bear), and England (lion. This is the definition of the Heraldic Beast from the college of heraldry and it has existed for the past 500 years. It also matches the exact description as seen by the Apostle John in the book of Revelation.” (Ibid.)

Now, the clincher . . .

“In conclusion, I have been asked many times if Prince Charles knows who he is. That is, if he is the antimessiah, does he know that he is? My answer is Yes. I believe that the antimessiah is patiently waiting for his time just as the Messiah waited for His. I believe he is trusting in the promise that was given by his father (viz. the “devil”?) . . . “Am I afraid of what Prince Charles might do with me identifying him? Nope. I’m small potatoes in this world. I’m just the “him” who did the calculation. ‘Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast.’”

WHAT HAPPENED TO AMERICA?
The fall of America—and the rise of the Beast—are bound, according to the post-trib view of McHyde, to its miraculous destruction foreseen in the Revelation and in his book: Planet X in Bible Prophecy and Mystery of Disunity (also included in the “package”) – the “Planet X” is WORMWOOD which is aimed directly at America!

Included in the $47 value (although bonuses bring the value to $97), one will find:

(1) The (post-tribulation) Rapture therefore only happens in a Sabbath year.
(2) The Great Tribulation must begin in year 4, the middle year, of a Sabbath year cycle (Dan. 9:27=Mt 24:15).
(3) Wormwood must come soon before that, probably in year 3 of a Sabbath year cycle.
(4) Since America falls between Wormwood’s passage (year 3 of cycle) and the start of the Tribulation (year 4), the timing of the Fall of America can also easily be ruled out for several years in advance at any point in time, which is very comforting (Note: Sort of a sop given to American evangelicals who were disappointed when the pre-trib rapture does not occur?)
(5) In other words, none of these events can happen at any moment, but can each actually only happen in one out of any given set of seven years!” (McHyde on Wormwood)
(. . . and, how to survive Planet X. . . .(Planet X)

America’s fate—as with virtually all pro-American prophets—is utterly incapacitated as a result of the pre-trib rapture, and now by Planet X occurring, according to McHyde at the Sixth Seal!

Her destruction and/or disappearance—whichever comes first—is simply a foregone conclusion which has to be made. How to remove the 800-lb. gorilla is now becoming the obsession of the millenarian masses.

A CONCLUDING WORD
What this author punctuates is the incredible and even willful ignorance which so many beloved brethren persist to display—and why? Because they genuinely believe that turn-of-the-nineteenth-century Premillenarianism is unalterably impervious to secular change? I doubt that. Times change—and, traditionally (though it be so ever brief)—Premillenarians have changed as much as their historicist counterparts.

Now, what disturbs is the frivolous attitude that pre-tribulational, Premillenarians are beginning to exude in reference to Daniel’s 70th Week! And, why not—we won’t be here in any event? Right? So we may fantasize all we wish without recrimination; furthermore, apolitical or patriotic indulgence is irrelevant—we’re outta here in any event—so, eat, drink, and be merry . . . and, remember, we’re looking for the “Blessed Hope” – not the Antichrist! Thus is born a superficial, materialistic, success-oriented, purpose-driven what’s-in-it-for-me Christianity that is abhorrent and hypocritical before the world—and, before the suffering Church throughout the world!

Compounding this absurdity is the complicity which the believing Church—in the name of good citizenry and patriotic duty . . . for God and country—while SIMULTANEOUSLY standing fast against the encroaching debauchery of a society under the destructive incursions of secular nihilism—strives to maintain a semblance of testimony!

Now, the West’s most visible spirituality ponders the defiance of a militant Islam and cowers before its outrage!

Brethren . . . if these are not the Last Days, then what are they?

I leave you with this meditation – both to comfort, to warn – to encourage, and to alert . . .

“‘Your words have been harsh against Me,’ Says the Lord,
‘Yet you say, ‘What have we spoken against You?’
You have said, ‘It is useless to serve God;
What profit is it that we have kept His ordinance,
And that we have walked as mourners before the Lord of hosts?
So now we call the proud blessed,
for those who do wickedness are raised up;
They even tempt God and go free.’

Then those who feared the Lord spoke to one another,
And the Lord listened and heard them;
So a book of remembrance was written before Him
For those who fear the Lord
And who meditate on His name.
‘They shall be Mine,’ says the Lord of hosts,
‘On the day that I make them My jewels.
And I will spare them as a man spares his own son who serves him.’
Then you shall again discern between the righteous and the wicked,
Between one who serves God and one who does not serve Him.”
(Malachi 3:13-18)

WHY I AM NOT A DISPENSATIONALIST John Nelson Darby is recognized as the father of dispensationalism later made popular in the United States by Cyrus Scofield's Scofield Reference Bible. Charles Henry Mackintosh, 1820–1896, with his popular style spread Darby's teachings to humbler elements in society and may be regarded as the journalist of the Brethren Movement. CHM popularised Darby more than any other Brethren author. As there was no Christian teaching of a “rapture” before Darby began preaching about it in the 1830s, he is sometimes credited with originating the "secret rapture" theory wherein Christ will suddenly remove His bride, the Church, from this world before the judgments of the tribulation. Dispensationalist beliefs about the fate of the Jews and the re-establishment of the Kingdom of Israel put dispensationalists at the forefront of Christian Zionism, because "God is able to graft them in again," and they believe that in His grace he will do so according to their understanding of Old Testament prophecy. They believe that, while the methodologies of God may change, His purposes to bless Israel will never be forgotten, just as He has shown unmerited favour to the Church, He will do so to a remnant of Israel to fulfill all the promises made to the genetic seed of Abraham. I am not a dispensationalist; it is unbiblical.

If there is to be a Pre-Tribulation Rapture the time is now beginning to run extremely short---

The late and great Barry Smith used to preach that the aim of the Antichrist was Global Domination. Yet, even after being appointed as the first ever full time president of the EU from out of total obscurity the first subject matter Herman Van Rompuy spoke on was World Government. Even then there were those with whom it did not tweak as to just who he was, just as there are still so many who are being fooled to this day. When it seems that those studying the end times were looking for was someone who had a more charismatic appearance, A.F; an alleged expert on the EU called him a non starter, more than likely because of his rather drab appearance, (as if looks count for everything) when outside appearances really count for very little at all? I have also noted that there are certain interpretations of the scripture that become quite popular for a time; however, when the prophecy is actually fulfilled there is hardly a word spoken, as most scholars simply then go and bury their heads in the sand and hope that it will all simply go away. However, there are still those out there in my age bracket who remember what they were taught years and years beforehand, and as a result when we see it taking place don’t mind telling the world what is clearly right around the corner, even though the majority quite clearly do not want to know about it.

There is no clearer evidence to verify that fact other than to see responses, or more correctly lack or responses, to some of the postings that I have made at this BlogSpot on the subject matter of the confirmation of the treaty of Daniel Chapter 9, Verse 27. That is to take place in June of this year, along with the ratification of the treaty that gives the Pope a Seat at King David's Tomb in Jerusalem, both at the same time.

The timing for the alleged rapture of the church centres on the signing of a seven year covenant by the Antichrist.
Could it just be that there are those out there who are counting on being taken up into Heaven without having to die first and any talk of the confirmation of the treaty of Daniel Chapter 9, Verse 27 frightens then somewhat? If that is the instance with some, it then beggars the question, where or where is your faith? For those who hold fast to the pre-tribulation theory there is still a few more months to go before the covenant is signed. Accordingly, there still may be time for the Rapture to take place before the signing. If there is to be a Rapture at all, I will be one of the first ones to grab hold of it. Certainly, I am not into predicating future events as all that I like to deal with are cold hard facts as they present themselves at any one time. As that is the case, then all I can say is good luck to those who believe there is going to be a Rapture before the signing of the treaty. My view still remains the same; I still think that it simply does not make any sense at all. That is not to say that in the instance of the timing for the alleged Rapture I may be well wide of the mark.

WHY I AM NOT A DISPENSATIONALIST John Nelson Darby is recognized as the father of dispensationalism later made popular in the United States by Cyrus Scofield's Scofield Reference Bible. Charles Henry Mackintosh, 1820–1896, with his popular style spread Darby's teachings to humbler elements in society and may be regarded as the journalist of the Brethren Movement. CHM popularised Darby more than any other Brethren author. As there was no Christian teaching of a “rapture” before Darby began preaching about it in the 1830s, he is sometimes credited with originating the "secret rapture" theory wherein Christ will suddenly remove His bride, the Church, from this world before the judgments of the tribulation. Dispensationalist beliefs about the fate of the Jews and the re-establishment of the Kingdom of Israel put dispensationalists at the forefront of Christian Zionism, because "God is able to graft them in again," and they believe that in His grace he will do so according to their understanding of Old Testament prophecy. They believe that, while the methodologies of God may change, His purposes to bless Israel will never be forgotten, just as He has shown unmerited favour to the Church, He will do so to a remnant of Israel to fulfill all the promises made to the genetic seed of Abraham. I am not a dispensationalist; it is unbiblical.

Two Covenants to be signed in June, a Seat for the Pope at King David's Tomb and the Covenant of Daniel Chapter 9, Verse 27.

The Black Pope

The bits and pieces of the Devils Jigsaw are finally beginning to fall into place. It looks to me like we are finally going to know the whole truth when it comes to the correct identity of both the Antichrist and the False Prophet. After having read the attached article I was immediately struck by the timing for the ratification of the both agreements, June this year. Now scroll down a page and go to the last article that I had written relating to the signing of the covenant of Daniel Chapter 9 Verse 27. From there you will also note that it also is to be signed in June of this year. I have looked around the Internet quite extensively to see what the other End Time’s blogs have been saying relative to A Seat for the Pope at King David's Tomb. I have found at least one of those blogs who seemed to believe there was some tie in between the aforementioned and the signing of the covenant of Daniel. That blogger was more correct than what he realizes. The timing for the signing of the seat for the Pope and the ratification of the seven year Euro treaty is nigh on impeccable. Both are both being signed at exactly the same time. If that is a coincidence then I am a monkey’s uncle. Please, no rude replies to that statement. What has been mentioned above then beggars the question Is Rome planning to soon move the throne of the Papacy to Jerusalem? Moving the Papal throne from Rome to Jerusalem would carry enormous End Times religious global implications, just as the signing of the covenant of Daniel Chapter 9, Verse 27 quite clearly will. It now seems that we are right at the end of the current age with the return of the Lord now extremely close at hand?

A Seat for the Pope at King David's Tomb
By Giulio Meotti

Israel seems to have sold Jerusalem to the Vatican.

An historic agreement has been drafted between Israel and the Vatican. The Israeli authorities have granted the Pope an official seat in the room where the Last Supper is believed to have taken place, on Mount Zion in Jerusalem, and where David and Solomon, Jewish kings of Judea, are considered by some researchers, to also be buried.

It is the culmination of a long campaign by the Catholic Church to regain religious stewardship over the place where Jesus is supposed to have broken bread and drunk wine with his disciples on the eve of his crucifixion.

This is an enormous issue pushed through without any public debate.

According to our sources, the agreement, which is expected to be ratified next June, gives the Pope a “special authority” over the second floor of the building, so that Christian pilgrims will be able to celebrate religious functions like Pope John Paul did in 2000.

The agreement constitutes Israel’s capitulation to the Vatican’s efforts to “Christianize” the holy site, like when a Catholic convent was built in Auschwitz.

The Catholic Church has long wanted control over part of the area on Mt. Zion so as to turn it into an international religious center for Catholics. The blueprint of the agreement reads as follows: “The Vatican hands over this use of the Cenacle to the Custody of the Holy Land which will keep the Cenacle open from 6 AM to 8 AM for the celebration of the Holy Mass”.

In the long term, the gesture will increase tensions between Jews and the large assets of the Vatican. The Church has long been working to reduce Jewish rights in Jerusalem and in the Old City. Now, after the Muslim Waif authority expelled the Christians from the Temple Mount and turned it into a mosque, it’s the turn of the Vatican to lay its hands on the Jewish Jerusalem.

The Custody of the Holy Land, the Franciscan order who, with Vatican approval, is in charge of the holy sites, campaigns with the Arabs against Israel.

As far back as May 2000, Yasser Arafat met Islamic and Christian clergymen at the presidential offices in Ramallah to back Palestinian Arab sovereignty over Jerusalem. Among the clergymen who attended the meeting, Diodoros I, patriarch of the Greek Orthodox Church, Torkom II, patriarch of the Armenian Orthodox Church, Catholic Patriarch

Michel Sabbath and officials from the Custody of the Holy Land.
"An official meeting took place in Ramallah, Palestine, at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the State of Palestine". This is the official note of the Vatican press office about the meeting between the Catholic officials and the PLO representatives which took place this week.

The Vatican is also asking that Israel hand over to the Vatican’s control dozens of sites, 19 in Judea and Samaria and 28 in Jerusalem. The Catholic Church wants to discuss some properties on Mount of Olives, Har Hazeitim, which is the very history of the Jewish people. If you want to keep Jerusalem united, you have to keep Har Hazeitim. The Vatican knows that.

In 1989 charges were made by the Catholic authorities that Israel desecrated the Cenacle on Mount Zion. The charges, which appeared in the Italian bishops’ newspaper Avvenire, said that the Israelis put a memorial plaque on the roof of the Cenacle. The plaque was put in place after the 1948 War of Independence in memory of soldiers who fell in the Old City and whose burial place was unknown. Every year, the bereaved families cleaned the plaque.

Why did the Catholic authorities complain? Last year a similar charge was made from the Catholic authorities that Israel wants to “Judaize” Mount Zion.

Should the Vatican gain sovereignty over Mount of Zion, millions of Christian pilgrims will flock to the site, and this will threaten the Israeli presence in the Old City’s Jewish Quarter and Jewish access to the Western Wall.

The Vatican wants the Jews out of the Old City and apparently Israel’s government is agreeing with them. Turning the Cenacle into an active church is also a way of desecrating the holiness of the site known as the Tomb of David.

The Vatican and the Palestinian Liberation Organisation expressed a common position in the Basic Agreement of 15 February 2000, intended to support the recognition of a special statute for the City of Jerusalem. In the memorandum, signed by Vatican officials and the PLO, an organization dedicated to the mass deportation of Israel’s Jews, the Catholic Church wants Israel relinquishing sovereignty at the Western Wall and the Temple Mount. The Vatican-PLO agreement’s preamble on Jerusalem shows that the Vatican's attitude on Israel's capital is still stuck in the unforgivable anti-Semitic rhetoric of the 1940s.

Until 1948, Christian access to the Cenacle was severely limited, because it was used as a mosque. Since then, the State of Israel is committed to protecting the holy places of all religions, and guaranteeing the right of worship for all faiths.

But no Israeli government must tolerate any policy of division, “shared control” or “internationalization” that opens the door to a return to the Arab apartheid of Jordanian occupation between 1948 and 1967.

Jerusalem is not for sale. For thousands of years, the Cenacle area was almost always totally closed off to Jews.

Sovereignty over Mount Zion is politics, not only religion. The day after the Pope celebrated a mass on Mt. Zion in 2000, he went to Yasser Arafat headquarter to support the Palestinians’ right to return.

A few months later, the Oslo war began. And Jews were scarified again on the altar of “peace”. It was their last supper.

This week, the Vatican in its official documents began referring to the "State of Palestine".

WHY I AM NOT A DISPENSATIONALIST John Nelson Darby is recognized as the father of dispensationalism later made popular in the United States by Cyrus Scofield's Scofield Reference Bible. Charles Henry Mackintosh, 1820–1896, with his popular style spread Darby's teachings to humbler elements in society and may be regarded as the journalist of the Brethren Movement. CHM popularised Darby more than any other Brethren author. As there was no Christian teaching of a “rapture” before Darby began preaching about it in the 1830s, he is sometimes credited with originating the "secret rapture" theory wherein Christ will suddenly remove His bride, the Church, from this world before the judgments of the tribulation. Dispensationalist beliefs about the fate of the Jews and the re-establishment of the Kingdom of Israel put dispensationalists at the forefront of Christian Zionism, because "God is able to graft them in again," and they believe that in His grace he will do so according to their understanding of Old Testament prophecy. They believe that, while the methodologies of God may change, His purposes to bless Israel will never be forgotten, just as He has shown unmerited favour to the Church, He will do so to a remnant of Israel to fulfill all the promises made to the genetic seed of Abraham. I am not a dispensationalist; it is unbiblical.