Tuesday, November 9, 2010

THE ROOTS OF DISPENSATIONALISM OF THE RAPTURE AND ITS INVENTOR - JOHN DARBY

Kurtis Dahlin
What is Dispensationalism?In the foreword of Charles Ryrie’s book, Dispensationalism Today, Frank Gaebelein wrote, “Dispensationalism is not a theology but rather a method of interpretation” Ryrie also called it a “system of theology” He stated that it “would be more accurate to call it a system of interpretation . . . It involves the meaning and significance of the entire Bible” He added,

Dispensationalism, then, claims to be a help . . . in offering a satisfying philosophy of history, and in employing a consistently normal principle of interpretation. These are basic areas in proper understanding of the Bible. If dispensationalism has the answers, then it is the most helpful tool in Biblical interpretation. If not, it ought to be discarded as worthless.

Therefore, dispensationalism is a tool, a method, a complete system of interpretation involving the meaning and significance of the entire Bible and history. Supposedly, God administers the affairs of the world in distinct periods, ages or dispensations. Each dispensation is characterized by a particular way, order or condition in which God administrates his interaction with mankind . John Darby identified seven different dispensations:

1. Paradise to the Flood 2. Noah 3. Abraham 4. Israel 5. Gentiles 6. The Spirit 7. The Millennium

Dispensationalism, as systematic theology, has predetermined conclusions about such subjects as the Kingdom of God; the Church and Israel; the teaching of Jesus; the return of Jesus and when it happens, how it happens, who is involved; the millennial 1,000 year period; the cessation of spiritual gifts; the nature of salvation and prophecy.

However, the distinguishing feature of dispensationalism is the belief in a secret catching away or rapture of the church prior to the final seven years of Great Tribulation. Paul Enns wrote, “Dispensationalists hold that the church is entirely distinct from Israel as an entity . . .


Dispensationalists also believe that the church will conclude its existence upon the earth at the rapture, prior to the Tribulation (1 Thess. 4:16)”. The Great Tribulation is designed specifically to discipline Israel. Therefore, the church will be raptured or mysteriously snatched away prior to the final Tribulation of Gods wrath. Enns stated, “This is a major reason why dispensationalists hold to a pre-tribulation rapture”. Ryrie wrote, “The distinction between Israel and the Church leads to the belief that the Church will be taken from the earth before the beginning of the tribulation” A pre-tribulation rapture of the Church is the core eschatology of dispensationalism Thessalonians 4:16 is marshaled as the proof text for a new doctrine of a secret half coming of Christ, for the true church, before the Tribulation. The dispensationalist system is a hermeneutical infrastructure for pre-tribulational rapture eschatology. In other words, the entire systematic theology of dispensationalism was created to support the pre-tribulation rapture theory. The Bible is interpreted to agree with dispensationalism.

Where Did Dispensationalism Originate?
Charles Ryrie served as professor of systematic theology at Dallas Theological Seminary for many years. He is well qualified to be the spokesman for this subject in his book called Dispensationalism Today. In The Moody Handbook of Theology author Paul Enns stated that Ryrie's book “is undoubtedly the premier defense of dispensationalism”. It is Ryrie's expressed purpose to correct misconceptions and to give a positive, up-to-date presentation of what dispensationalists are teaching today.

So where does the pre-tribulational rapture come from?
Ryrie tells us that a large contribution toward the systematizing of dispensationalism came from John Darby in the late 1800's He wrote, “There is no question that the Plymouth Brethren of which John Nelson Darby, (1800-1882) was a leader had much to do with the systematizing and promoting of dispensationalism” The most prominent early leader was John Nelson Darby, who taught that Christ might return at any moment and in a “secret rapture” which would take away the members of the true church to dwell in heaven (Conrad Wright, The 1995 Grolier Multimedia Encyclopedia). The rapture movement had its beginnings in Ireland and England in the 1820s, Plymouth being a main centre of activity. The name Plymouth Brethren identifies several small Christian sects of common origin found in Britain, continental Europe, and the United States that are conservative in theology and millenarian in outlook. Ryrie also demonstrated that the concept has changed much since that time of Darby. Dispensationalism has gone through an evolutionary refining and his book puts forth the current position that they hold today. In the development process, the dispensationalist system was adopted, adapted, and popularized by C.I. Scofield in his reference Bible Another prominent dispensationalist is Lewis S. Chafer, the founder of Dallas Theological Seminary. Charles Ryrie also has his own study Bible that incorporates his notes, which further develop the dispensationalist system.

Larry Crutchfield, an avid dispensationalist, described the origins of the dispensationalist pre-tribulation rapture movement:

Few would argue that Darby was the first to give a systematic presentation of the doctrine of a pre-tribulation rapture. With regard to the question of where Darby himself got the doctrine, however, there is not the same harmony of opinion. A fairly wide range of sources are suggested, most of them contemporaneous with Darby.

Another candidate for the source of [John] Darby's pre-tribulation rapture doctrine is Margaret Macdonald (c.1815-c.1840). According to Dave MacPherson, the young mystic from Port Glasgow, Scotland, had a great deal to do with the pre-tribulational views of both Darby and Irving. The source of Macdonald's information was a vision she supposedly had of Christ's second coming. Her own handwritten account of the vision, later printed in several publications, is completely reproduced by MacPherson.

It should be apparent from all that has been said previously that Darby's concept of the pre-tribulation rapture grows out of his understanding of the church as a special work of God, completely distinct from His purpose and plan for Israel. Darbys studies bring him to the conclusion that the church will be removed from the earth to set the stage for her glorification with Christ. And after this is accomplished, he believes that God can turn His attention to the remnant of Israel in the Tribulation and to her hopes associated with the millennial kingdom to follow. While Darby consistently refers to Scripture as the source of his views, a number of his detractors maintain that he got them elsewhere, either from the heretic Edward Irving (perhaps at the Powerscourt conferences), or a young Scottish woman named Margaret Macdonald, or someone else (189).

David MacPherson stated,Both Post-Tribs and Pre-Tribs may be shocked to learn that [John] Darby himself visited Margaret in her Port Glasgow home not long after the word got out that she'd succeeded in splitting the Second Coming "atom," and he tells what he saw and heard in a little-known work of his that has generally been overlooked by historical scholars (67).

It may be a bit unsettling to realize that the Pre-Tribulation Rapture’s birthplace is Port Glasgow, Scotland, that the date on its “birth certificate” is 1830, and that a young Scottish lassie originated it.

All knowledgeable Pre-Trib leaders of the present time trace back their distinctive prophetic view to John Darby, the famous organizer and promoter of the Plymouth Brethren movement. But such leaders never say that Darby originated Pre-Trib; they declare that Darby only rediscovered and systematized this concept.

And Darby himself never claimed to have originated Pre-Trib. Darby did reveal, however, the year he said he first separated the Rapture from the Second Coming. Commenting on II Thessalonians 2:1-2, he wrote: “It is this passage which, twenty years ago, made me understand the rapture of the saints before, perhaps a considerable time before, the day of the Lord (that is, before the judgment of the living).”

Analysing this statement, we find that when he began to adopt the “separate Rapture” view, his jumping off spot was the day of the Lord, which he equated with the judgment of the living. The study of his that contained this statement was published in 1850.

Therefore, “twenty years ago” refers to the key year of 1830 (50-51).
The most telling critique of this doctrine [i.e., Pre-Tribulation Rapture] is simply the fact of its newness. It developed from a series of visions experienced by a Scottish woman named Margaret Macdonald in 1830. She believed that a spirit of prophecy had revealed to her that, prior to Christs Second Coming, He would come secretly to remove all Christians from the earth. This novel idea was quickly adopted into both Catholic and Protestant doctrines, and spread throughout Europe and America (200-201).

Richard Reiter stated,
pre-tribulational dispensationalism advanced during this era [i.e., 1909-1952] because Gaebelein, Scofield, James M. Gray at Moody Bible Institute, Ruben A. Torrey at Bible Institute of Los Angeles, Harry A. Ironside at Moody Memorial Church, and Lewis Sperry Chafer at the Evangelical Theological College (later Dallas Theological Seminary) popularized its doctrines widely. The pre-tribulation rapture became the standard position of most Bible conferences and Bible institutes. Of greater influence than any other single factor was the Scofield Reference Bible (improved edition, 1917), which inculcated the eschatology of dispensationalism even while making its primary contribution as a popular defense of evangelicalism, when all else seemed to be falling before the flood of twentieth-century modernism. As a result, “soon the badge of North American evangelicalism was the Scofield Bible”.

Tim LaHaye published a book in 1998 titled, Rapture Under Attack. The book is the result of what Tim LaHaye called “The greatest research project of my life”. LaHaye “has undertaken the most comprehensive study and research effort of his career” to provide the definitive rebuttal of the growing arguments against the pre-tribulation rapture. His purpose is to convince and reaffirm the faith of readers in the pre-tribulation rapture. LaHaye attempted to systematically dismantle what he called the false charges being made against the pre-tribulation eschatology. He wrote, “I can honestly say that I am more convinced than ever of the pre Tribulation Rapture position”.

WHO IS JOHN DARBY?LaHaye informed us that John Darby was converted in 1825 and that same year entered the ministry with the Church of England (161). In late November of 1826, while Darby was convalescing from a broken leg, he recognized the distinction between the church and Israel. The separation of the church and Israel is key to pre-tribulation eschatology. During this time he also came to believe in the soon return of Jesus Christ. He was 27 years old when he formulated the basic principles of dispensationalism including the pre-tribulation rapture.


According to the best research done by devout Darbyists, John Darby was one year old in the Lord when he received his groundbreaking revelation from the Holy Spirit (LaHaye 162). Think about yourself when you were one year old in the Lord. What right did you command to hijack historical orthodoxy? I've had a broken leg that doesn't mean that I am allowed to create new doctrine. At what point in your Christian life are you authorized to introduce new doctrines?

Tim LaHaye wrote that Darby came to accept the soon return of Christ and the separation of the church and Israel between 1826 and 1827. LaHaye pointed out that for Darby, “the awareness of the coming of Christ at any moment was one of his earliest positions” (163).

THE ORIGIN OF THE PRE-TRIBULATION RAPTURE
Tim LaHaye attempted to show that Darby was led by the Holy Spirit to derive his doctrine from scripture. LaHaye stated that the pre-tribulation rapture doctrine was the work of “the Holy Spirit, who wanted to bring that truth to life for these last days…”. LaHaye quoted Darby who wrote, “the truths themselves were then revealed of God, through the action of His Spirit, by reading His Word. What was to be done? I saw in that word the coming of Christ to take the church to Himself in glory”. Darby claimed to have received direct revelation from God concerning the pre-tribulation rapture. Darby came to his rapture position through his personal study and translation of scripture.

Tim LaHaye quoted a church historian who stated, “Darby never indicated any source for his ideas other than the Bible…. In later years he seems to have felt that he was convinced about the doctrine as early as 1827”. There is some controversy surrounding the origin of the pre-tribulation rapture theory. Some argue that Margaret MacDonald first proclaimed it. Others believe that Edward Irving originated the theory. However, the Darbyists point out that it is “Darby's own claim to have arrived at the doctrine through his study of 2 Thessalonians 2:1 2” (LaHaye 165).

The early date of 1827 for Darby's discovery is important to Darbyists because it pre dates the supposed revelation given to Margaret MacDonald and Edward Irving. LaHaye noted, “This date is important because none of the current attacks suggesting Mr. Darby derived the pre Trib position from unsavory sources provide dates before 1831!. Apparently if the pre-tribulation rapture was revealed by the Holy Spirit to Margaret MacDonald or Edward Irving, it would be fanaticism or unsavory. However, if the secret rapture was revealed to Darby it becomes truth. LaHaye wrote, “It is safe for us to conclude that Darby did not receive his view of the Lord's return from any of the sources attributed to him by his detractors”. "


According to the Darbyists there is no other source for the pre-tribulation rapture other than Darby's own interpretation of the Bible. Darby stated that the Holy Spirit brought it to life as he studied scripture. In other words, Darby did not rediscover a truth hidden in church history. Darby would not say that he studied church history and recovered his doctrine from the early Fathers of the church. Darby did not get his doctrine from the orthodox flow of church history. In fact, all honest Darbyists agree that no one taught pre-tribulation dispensational eschatology before John Darby.

Tim LaHaye stated that Darby popularized dispensationalism. He wrote, “Mr. Darby may rightly be accused of popularizing the concept in England, in America and Canada, during the nineteenth century, but he certainly did not invent it”. Well then, who invented the secret rapture theory? Why doesn't anyone want to take the credit? Tim LaHaye and others do not want to admit that Darby not only popularized the doctrine but also invented it. Would the secret rapture be wrong if Darby invented it? LaHaye is a master in the clever use of words. However, Darby made no claim to having formulated his doctrine from church history. Darby did not care that his new doctrine was not taught anywhere in church history. Darbyists know that the earliest church was premillennial and posttribulational. LaHaye is correct when he stated that Darby “popularized” dispensationalism. Darbyists agree that no one, not even heretics in church history, taught Darby’s dispensationalism. It is a clever use of words to label the church Fathers as ancient dispensationalists and Darby as a modern dispensationalist. There is no connection between the eschatology of the early Fathers and the secret rapture developed by John Darby.

There is a fervent effort being made by Darbyists to find any crumb of support for their doctrine in church history. Their valiant effort is in vain! Darby did not get his theological system of dispensationalism from the orthodox stream of church history. He did not research the early Fathers and recover a lost eschatology. Darby did not believe that his doctrine was rooted in orthodoxy. Darby did not quote from the Fathers for his support. Darby quoted himself. If he did not get it from Margaret MacDonald or Edward Irving, where did he get it? Darby reported that he received revelation by the Holy Spirit. The pre-tribulation rapture of dispensationalism was a product of his own imagination.

We, as the church, are guardians of the apostolic repository of truth. Truth does not stagnate. Truth is not progressive. Truth is static. We receive truth. We do not invent truth! If the pre-tribulation rapture were the doctrine of Jesus, the apostles and Paul, wouldn't someone have known before AD 376, 784 or 1830? Wouldn't Jesus have taught such a great hope clearly? Wouldn't Paul have taught it to his churches clearly? Wouldn't John have passed it on to subsequent generations as the great hope for Christians? Wouldn't the pre-tribulation rapture have been passed down as apostolic doctrine just like every other essential Christian doctrine? However, there is no confusion in the early church. The earliest disciples taught that the Second Coming of Christ and the gathering of the saints were premillennial and after the great tribulation. There are some theological principles found in the early Fathers that are exploited by the Darbyists, but no honest scholar would say that Darby was faithful to the Fathers. The early Fathers must be maligned as “confused” and discredited in order for the pre-tribulation doctrine to flourish. Likewise, the Gnostics, the Arians and the Jehovah's Witnesses all reject the early Fathers and malign them as confused.

Tim LaHaye mentioned one obscure Father from AD 327 who supposedly promoted a pre-tribulation rapture. Then it took 1500 years to go anywhere and find a follower in Darby. However, did Darby know anything about this church Father? Did Darby know anything about the renegade Jesuit priest Lacunza in 1826? Did Darby know about MacDonald and Irving? Did he quote Mede or Victorinus as his forerunners? No. As far as Darby knew, he was the inventor of a new doctrine. The pre-tribulation eschatology is based upon Darby's private interpretation or revelation of scripture (120). Concerning the rapture of Christians before the revelation of the anti Christ, LaHaye wrote, “Darby is probably the first to identify it before the entire Tribulation, which he perceived as a seven year period” (168). LaHaye also noted, “It is true that pre Trib position was not formed in detail until 1826 1828” (169). How can Darby be the “first” and not the “first” at the same time? How can the pre-tribulation rapture doctrine not be formed until 1826 and yet be considered historical orthodoxy? Very cl
Tim LaHaye admitted, “The post Trib position (in its primitive form) is the oldest point of view”. LaHaye also stated that it never occurred to second and third century Christians “that Christ would come before the tribulation”. The eschatology closest to the apostles is posttribulational. There is no confusion about this orthodox and universal apostolic tradition. This means that the earliest disciples of the apostles believed that the Second Coming of Christ and gathering of the saints was posttribulational. How could the church universally misunderstand such a great hope? The answer is they didn't. The post tribulation coming of Christ for the saints is the correct doctrine that has been handed down to us from Jesus, the apostles and Paul to the church Fathers. We don't need a new eschatology, no matter how appealing.

We learn from Tim LaHaye:
1) That the earliest church was posttribulational (197).
2) The earliest church believed in the imminent return of Christ (71).
3) The earliest church was holy, evangelistic and ready to be martyred (71).
4) The earliest church was patiently waiting for the coming of Jesus Christ.
5) The earliest church thought they were in the great tribulation (198, 31).
6) The tribulation saints were given the days to count down for the blessed Return of Christ

The earliest church was posttribulational.
This early church was able to evangelize the world, protect the scripture, give us the Canon, protect apostolic doctrine, give us the Nicene Creed and bequeath every other apostolic doctrine that we consider orthodox to this day.

Tim LaHaye wrote,Many Independent, Baptist, and Methodist pastors readily saw the biblical justification for Darby's teachings readily saw the biblical justification for Darby's teachings on dispensations, the separation of Israel and the church, Futurism, imminency, and a pre Tribulation Rapture. Since they were biblical literalists who already believed in the pre Millennial return of Christ, it was a small step to incorporate these new concepts into their views of end time activities.
LaHaye called them “Darby's teachings.” He called them “new concepts” and he listed a number of those new concepts. What we discover is that Darby developed a major system of biblical interpretation called dispensationalism that is “his concepts, his teachings, his views.”

The debate over who originated the pre-tribulational secret rapture theory is of little consequence. Of course, the devotees of dispensationalism do not want to claim Margaret Macdonald or Edward Irving as the founders. However, the fact remains that the secret half coming of Christ “for the saints” was a new invention recently developed over the last 150 years. Either Margaret Macdonald, Edward Irving or John Darby created a novel interpretation of the End Times that has become authoritative for a large portion of Protestant Christianity. Yet, how can one man or woman exercise such authority in the church? A new doctrine cannot be based upon a few scattered references over 1800 years of church history. The Darbyists believe all we require is two or three isolated quotations from history to approve a new dogma. Usually Protestants are quick to find fault with Roman Catholics for adding new dogma and traditions based on popular consensus. Yet, many Protestants find no fault with John Darby who was the first to systematize and popularize dispensationalism. At least the Roman Catholics have a church council where consensus is required for the adoption of a new tradition. Yet, in certain Protestant circles new traditions are adopted simply by popular appeal. Roman Catholics claim equal authority for tradition and scripture. Roman Catholics argue on behalf of progressive revelation and the “Church’s right to authorize a legitimate development in doctrine.” The Roman Catholics consider the bodily rapture of Mary after her death to heaven to be “truth divinely revealed” (Hardon 161). Some Protestants claim equal authority for the tradition systematized by John Darby. What is the difference between the formulation of the pre-tribulation rapture and Purgatory or the bodily assumption of Mary? The pre-tribulation rapture is taught as canon in many Protestant circles. Apparently the canon is not closed for all Protestants. However, the Fathers and church history must be discarded, disparaged and ignored in order for Darby’s dispensationalism to flourish. A major doctrine such as dispensational eschatology should have been taught universally in church history. Yet, the lack of historicity is overlooked by the Darbyists. The Roman Catholics also argue, “we need not be able to trace historically through ecclesiastical documents the Church’s hierarchical teaching on some matter of faith and morals” (Hardon 233). Ultimately, we are not concerned with who invented the secret rapture, whether two or three people in history or if MacDonald or Irving or Darby made it up. It still is an error introduced into the mainstream of Protestant Christian theology. Dispensationalism is a needless manmade tradition added to the Canon of scripture.

Let us be honest. John Darby, as a 27 year old young man, and an untrained new Christian convert, without any accountability to orthodox church history, a denomination or Christian mentors, created a theological system that divided the Brethren Movement and further divided the church (LaHaye 162). The same people who teach that revelation ceased with the apostles now inform us that Darby received a monumental revelation as a result of his own individual study of the word of God.

Yet, Ryrie is not concerned about the newness of the dispensationalist secret rapture doctrine. Instead, he argued for the legitimate progress of dogma. Apparently, it is only now that the church is beginning to fully understand eschatology. He dedicated four pages of his book Dispensationalism Today to describing the dispensationalist interpretation of the End Times as progressive revelation. “The Bible interpreter must observe carefully this progressiveness of revelation, and dispensationalism helps promote accuracy in this regard”. Ryrie also understood that the early apostolic Fathers did not teach any tenets of the current dispensational system. He stated, “It is not suggested nor should it be inferred that these early Church Fathers were dispensationalists in the modern sense of the word”. Charles Ryrie clearly understood that pre-tribulational dispensationalism was not rooted in historic orthodoxy. He wrote, “Posttribulationalism was the position of the early church” (Doctrine 168). If posttribulationalism was the position of the early church--why change? Apostolic truth should not be subject to the whims, “revelations” and desires of consensus or well meaning individuals.

A wedge must be hammered between the new view invented one hundred and fifty years ago and historic orthodoxy. The early Fathers must be maligned as confused, embryonic or ill informed. Lewis Chafer wrote,

Until A.D. 190 the early church fathers were almost unanimous in holding to the premillennial interpretation of Scripture. They were confused by the fact that the Bible affirms that major events will take place before the Second Coming such as the appearance of the Antichrist and a single worldwide government. On the other hand they recognized the teaching of the Scriptures that the coming of Christ for the church is imminent. The early church fathers accordingly were confused and often they spoke of the Rapture as imminent and then later affirmed that some event must take place first which would deny its immanency.

Crutchfield wrote, “On the whole, the eschatology of the Fathers was embryonic and incomplete”. However, Engleman again recalled the historic position of the Fathers,

The concept of Christ rapturing believers was completely unknown during the first thousand years of Christian history, during which time there was but one Christian Faith throughout the world. The Seven Ecumenical Councils of A.D. 325 through 787, in which all the essential doctrines of Christian Truth were declared, never mentioned a rapture (Engleman 201).

Father Michael Pomazansky points out the traditional Christian teaching on this subject: that “even the elect will suffer on earth during the ‘tribulation’ period, and that for their sake this period will be shortened” (Matt. 24:21-22) (Engleman 201-202).

Historically the church has suffered incredible persecution. The Second Coming of Christ was to end the tribulation that Christians endured. Since the early Christians lived in the midst of vicious, brutal tortures how could they teach a pre-tribulational escape? They looked forward to the time when Christ would come and end their trials. The early church was post-tribulational. No one is confused about the eschatology of the Fathers. However, the hope of the Fathers is now ridiculed as a destructive deception of the devil. Richard Reiter explained the remarkable turn around and then quoted C. I. Scofield,

As early as 1895 C. I. Scofield asserted that both posttribulationism and postmillennialism lacked urgency, and said they “come perilously near to saying, ‘My Lord delayeth His coming.’” But when he addressed the Wilmington [Delaware] Bible Conference in 1913 he called posttribulationism a deceiving and destructive opponent of the pre-tribulation Rapture.

It seems to have been a prime object of Satan to confuse the minds of God’s people about that Blessed Hope, anything to turn their eyes away from expecting him. Well, our Lord said it would be so. . . . I dont think that the enemy of the Blessed Hope is now so much postmillennialism, but it is rather posttribulationism

Next, the authors of the new interpretation of scripture claim a special revelation from God. Ryrie stated,

Progressive revelation is the recognition that Gods message to man was not given in one single act but was unfolded in a long series of successive acts and through the minds and hands of many men of varying backgrounds.

Charles Ryrie then proceeded to link the revelation of dispensational eschatology with the Bible. “The principle of progressive revelation is evident in the Scriptures themselves”. Ryrie quoted from Milton Terry as further proof for the progress of revelation. “With each new series of generations some new promise is given, or some great purpose of God is brought to light.” Ryrie concluded that dispensationalism is the work of divine revelation.

It is the marking off of these stages in the revelation of the purpose of God that is the basis for the dispensational approach to the interpretation of the Scriptures.

The student of Christian history is presented with a clear choice. We can acquiesce in the authority of one woman or man with a “new progressive” revelation from God or we can acquiesce in the authority of the early Fathers. Let the Fathers prevail. The pre-tribulation rapture theory and all its necessary supports and arguments are essentially unorthodox. Dispensational eschatology depends on a new tradition imparted as a divine revelation either to Margaret Macdonald or John Darby. When a person is indoctrinated into the dispensationalist methodology, he or she approaches the study of scripture in a particular systematic way. It is like wearing dark glasses when studying the Bible. Everything is filtered or colored by the dispensationalist system of interpretation. The dispensationalist filter effects their approach to history and the interpretation of the Bible. Dispensationalism is a complete system of interpretation. The conclusions the dispensationalist arrives at concerning the Bible, are the very same ones they began with. History and the Bible no longer inform thinking but are forced to conform to their predetermined theology. Crutchfield wrote,

It is interesting to note that Scofield too goes straight to the Bible as his source for the doctrine of the pre-tribulation rapture of the saints. In February, 1902, issue of A. C. Gaebeleins publication, Our Hope, Scofield asserts that “We cannot  allow the statement to stand that ‘until the days of Edward Irving, who was excluded from the Presbyterian Church for heresy, no one ever heard of the ‘coming for’ and ‘coming with His saints.’” Scofield goes on to cite 1 Thessalonians 4:15-18 in further proof of the Biblical origin of the doctrine.

However, the Second Coming of Jesus and the gathering of the elect as described in Matthew 24 is clearly “after the distress of those days” or post tribulation. Does the Coming of Jesus in 1Thessalonians 4 describe a different, unique and secret half coming prior to the days of distress? The Coming of Christ and gathering of the saints in Matthew 24 is the same Coming and gathering in 1 Thessalonians 4. Compare for yourselves.

Matthew 24:29 31
29 "Immediately after the distress of those days "'the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.'
30 "At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and all the nations of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky, with power and great glory.
31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other. (NIV)


1Thessalonians 4:15 18
15 According to the Lord's own word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left till the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep.
16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.
17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever.
18 Therefore encourage each other with these words. (NIV)


Paul specifically referred back to “the Lord’s own word” as the authoritative reference point for his teaching in 1 Thessalonians 4. Jesus said his coming and gathering of the elect is “after the tribulation” (Matt 24:27; Mk13:24). What is it about “after the tribulation” that is so hard to understand? Where, according to the Lord’s own words, does he teach a secret coming to rapture endless Christians before the Great Tribulation? Jesus never taught a pre-tribulation rapture 7 years before his coming. His coming and gathering of the saints is “after the tribulation” not before the tribulation. It is clear that the only record of Jesus’ eschatology depicting his return and the gathering of the saints is post tribulation. There is no other coming and gathering in the teachings of Jesus.

Matt 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days (RSV)
Matt 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days (NKJ)
Matt 24:29 But immediately after the tribulation of those days (NAU)

It is impossible that Paul should have any other secret teaching or doctrine or knowledge of the Second Coming and gathering of the saints apart from the precise words of Jesus as recorded in the gospels. Jesus stated that his coming and gathering of the saints would be “Immediately after the tribulation of those days.” The nations that are alive and remain will see him coming on the clouds with glory and power. He will send his angels with a loud trumpet call to gather up the elect to be with him. Paul stated that his description of the Coming of Jesus and gathering of the elect in 1 Thessalonians chapter 4 was “According to the Lord’s own word.” Paul wrote that the Lord would descend with a loud command of power and glory. The first angel would blow the trumpet and those elect Christians of all nations who remain alive will be gathered up to be with the Lord. Historically, there was only one Second Coming and gathering of the saints as proclaimed by Jesus. According to the very words of Jesus his coming and gathering is after the tribulation. The apostolic church believed Jesus, literally, for 1850 years. The post tribulation return of Jesus to gather the elect was the complete and clear eschatology of Jesus, the apostles, Paul, the early Fathers and the universal church until Margaret Macdonald or John Darby’s revelation about A.D. 1830. The Secret Rapture was so secret that no one taught it for 1850 years. Apparently Darby’s personal interpretation of scripture has precedence over the very words of Jesus and the orthodox post tribulation eschatology of the apostles, Paul and the apostolic Fathers. Paul’s teaching in 1 Thessalonians 4 must be severed from “the Lords own word” in the gospels and applied to a novel, secret half coming according to “the words of John Darby.” Let the Fathers prevail. Let Jesus prevail.

Dispensationalism dismembers the body of Christ by disposing of powerful spiritual gifts. The weakened Church now cowers before evil hoping to escape the final battle. The Blessed Hope of the Darbyists is to escape the end time war between good and evil. Darbyists rob the Church of power, then they rob it of courage. The rapture is a feel good theology that appeals to Western Christians. The Darbyists do not pray for power to endure and bring glory to Christ. The Darbyists pray to escape honoring Christ. The Darbyists burn their draft cards.

ACCORDING THE DARBYISTS
John Darby was the first to systematize and popularize the pre-tribulation rapture and the theological infrastructure of dispensationalism. No one taught anything close to it in all the history of the world. Darby was the primary leader in the secret rapture movement. Darby dispensationalism has no root in apostolic tradition. Dispensationalism is progressive revelation. Darby was one year old in the Lord when he received his profound revelation from the Holy Spirit. Yet, supposedly he did not invent dispensationalism. If Margaret MacDonald or Edward Irving had the revelation first that would constitute an unsavory and fanatical source. Fortunately for the Darbyists, with new information, Darby’s revelation of the rapture predated both MacDonald and Irving. The post tribulation coming of Jesus and gathering of the saints was the universal teaching of the earliest church. However, post tribulationalism is now considered a deception of the devil and an enemy of the Blessed Hope. The earliest disciples of the apostles were confused. And all this is OK with you?

God says what he means, and means what he says in his word.

There seems to be some areas of confusion operating amongst certain areas of Christianity over what God was trying to tell us in his word?

There seems to be the mistaken belief that somehow or another we are able to twist the words of God contained in the Holy Scriptures - even if that be ever so slightly - and that by doing so we change its meaning just to suite our own somewhat twisted viewpoints.

Without wishing to rant and rave again over the rapture of the church debate all over again, a prime example of this is the rapture debate.

With reference to the debate over the Mark of the Beast, I have just received an email from a friend who seemed to suggest that the word of God could somehow be compromised, or twisted around so that it could be made to say what it actually did not.

Even though there are no doubts whatsoever those that take the Mark of the Beast are destined for eternal damnation, He seemed to be inferring there would be the case for exclusion (in some instances) from what God had written in his word.

The excuse being that just because a person may have been innocent or naive relative to the consequences of taking the Mark of the Beast there was somehow the chance for a compromise when there is nothing of the such like written in the word of God.

What that sort of statement infers is that even though God had written something in his word it could be compromised at a later time. If that were the case then everything that had been written in the word of God could be negotiated at a later date, when that is simply not the case.

His wording went something along the following lines

You really think God would damn someone who innocently took a chip that later was used for the mark? Is that what a just God would do, punish you for eternity for being naive or even deceived?

There are no excuses when it comes to the word of God. When God wrote his word he said what he meant, and meant what he said, and if he said that those that take the Mark or determined for eternal hellfire, then he meant what he had said.

There are no ifs or buts or maybes, and if God said that those that take the mark are determined to spend eternity in hellfire, then those are the facts of the matter, (as has been mentioned aforesaid) and those that think any differently are simply barking up the wrong tree by twisting the word of God just to suite one's own purposes, which is not a very wise thing to do.

After all, if those that have come to such a point relative to the Mark of the what else can one also make excuses over by saying that was not really what God had meant by what he had written in his word.

Are we then going to say that the countless other sins that are mentioned in the Bible can also be excused?

If that were the case then there would have been no reason whatsoever for Christ to have come into the world so that our sins could be forgiven.

That is not to say that I do not believe that God is a loving and forgiving type of God but if he said in his word that those that take the Mark are determined for Hellfire then that is what he meant, as harsh as that might seem to be.

It's there for all to read in black and white those that take the Mark of the Beast are determined to spend eternity in Hellfire, there are no excuses, not now, or not ever.

Revelation Chapter 14, Verse 9 to 12
9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up forever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.


Those that worship the Beast and take his mark are determined for eternal damnation that's what the scripture says.

Therefore, there would have to be the dual sin of the worship of the Beast and the taking of the Mark before a person would be sent to eternal damnation

However the fundamentalist Born Again Christian would not worship the Beast -- therefore the Christian would not take the Mark. But that verse still says that anyone who takes the Mark is determined for eternal damnation, and there are no excuses not know or not ever, and so please be warned before it is too late.

Monday, November 8, 2010

There is no definite proof that the Microchip Implant is the Mark of the Beast...

I have just received an email from a friend who had said that he did not believe the microchip implant was the Mark of the Beast, and you know what, he is right?

Revelation Chapter 13, Verses 16 to 1816 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
There is not a country anywhere in the world that has currently gotten rid of cards and cash and is using a microchip implant as a replacement to buy and sell with, not yet anyway.

But that does not mean to say that there will come a time when the cash and cards are replaced with a microchip implant to buy and sell with, and the way that the infrastructure over here in Australia is currently being set up that time does not appear to be all that far away?

So in that sense our friend above is correct when he said the Mark of the Beast has not been introduced globally, because it has not. As such, there is really no conclusive proof whatsoever that the microchip implant is the Mark of the Beast.

However, if there were ever a time the microchip was to be used for buying and selling then those that have already taken an implant under the skin are determined for eternal damnation, even though it does not please me in any shape or form whatsoever to have to say that.

Revelation Chapter 14, Verses 9 to 12
9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
That is not to say that there are dozens of Born Again Christians that believe the Mark of the Beast is the microchip implant, but as has been mentioned above, there is no definite proof that this is an indisputable fact.

EU leaders debate New Rules for Debt Crises - will their decision hand more power over to the Herman Van Rompuy?

European Union heads of state gather in Brussels for what many expect will be a fractious two-day summit on whether to fundamentally overhaul rules for managing debt crises.

At issue is a strong push from Germany to change a key European Union treaty to strengthen economic governance. The aim: to avoid future fiscal crises like the one triggered by Greece earlier this year and to ensure financially troubled members do not default on their debt.

Ilaria Maselli is an economic analyst at the Center for European Policy Studies in Brussels. She says the Greek crisis sent a particularly strong message to the 16 EU nations who share the euro currency.

“If you consider that Greece is only 2, 3 percent of the euro area’s GDP and even if it is very small it was able to create a euro-wide crisis, the point is that precisely in the euro-system as it is now, there is no provision to react in the case of a crisis,” Maselli said.

During a summit earlier this month, German Chancellor Angela Merkel called for overhauling EU finance rules. French President Nicolas Sarkozy backed the proposals. Germany and France have long been seen as the motors of Europe, driving the 27-member EU.

Herman van Rompuy, the EU’s permanent president, said on Wednesday that it is critical for a new mechanism to replace a trillion-dollar emergency crisis fund set up this year. It expires in 2013.

Van Rompuy outlined recommendations by an EU task force that include better surveillance of European economies and better management of public finances to avoid future financial crises.

But Germany wants to go further and rewrite the Lisbon Treaty to include tougher fiscal rules. The pact went into effect last year only after lengthy headaches and negotiations. And that is one reason why many EU members are balking.

“The problem is when you want to open a treaty negotiation, it’s like a Pandora’s box. The objective is to avoid this – otherwise many, many requests will come,” Maselli explained.

Regional political analysts say European leaders may find a way to include Germany’s proposals without fundamentally changing the Lisbon treaty – or they may agree to a watered-down compromise.

THE EXTREMISM OF THE FALSE RAPTURE DOCTRINE

When really there is nothing in the word of God that says that we/the Christians are going to be suddenly floated away up into the air and into Heaven to be with the Lord forever, it really is mind boggling the lengths some people will go to make their points relative to this fantasy world that so many seem to be living in relative to the imagined rapture of the church.

Let me say that again, there is nothing whatsoever in the Bible that says anything at all about Christians suddenly being floated away up into the air and into Heaven to be with the Lord forever.

I really don't know of any other way to make a point relative to this or say it any clearer.

There are really no doubts at all that those that believe in this rapture nonsense are extremely mixed up and very sick people.

The absolute confusion that this whole sad and sorry mess is causing could not be edified any better than the actual varying degrees of timing that this rapture gobbledegook is causing.

As most of the nut cases that believe in a rapture are only too well aware, there are varying degrees of theories relating to the alleged timing of the rapture, there are the pre, mid and the post versions.

Common sense would dictate that if there were ever to be a rapture of the church the alleged timing would be quite plain to see, and there simply would not be all of this argument over when it was supposed to happen.

There really are no excuses for this type of irrational thinking and the only way that I am able to explain it is that just as there is extremism or fanaticism within every group or religion these rapture people are the blind side of the more gentler side of Christianity.

This particular group could be compatible with the extremism of Islam as they go about all over the world trying to cause as much carnage as possible.

However, the only notable difference between the Moslem extremist and the fanatical group of Christians that hold fast to the false rapture doctrine is that the Moslem extremist sets off bombs and destroys bodies, while the rapture group does ten times, or even millions of times, more harm in that they destroy not just something that is perishable and will soon wither and die anyway.

You guessed it, instead of just bodies, this group sets out and succeeds to destroy something far, far, more valuable than a person's body as they set out and succeed to destroy, a man's very soul.

As for me and mine, I really do not want anything at all to do with this group of sickos lest they contaminate me or those that are the closest to me.

Certainly, there is a great deal of mention in the word of God relative to the return of the Lord back onto the earth, but there is nothing whatsoever that speaks about a so called rapture of the church.

Just to cite an example of the insanity, or more correctly should I say spirit, that has possessed some that have the audacity to call themselves Christian -- I recently wrote to one of these fanatics and asked him to explain why the actual word rapture is never ever mentioned in the word of God and here is the lame excuse that he sent back in return.

Quote: "Rapture" is a biblical term and it is a biblical concept. Comment from Dr David Reagan and Nathan Jones of Lamb and Lion Ministries

Where is the word "Rapture" found in the Bible?

Dr. David Reagan and I recently got together for a Christ in Prophecy TV interview to talk about how some people don't believe the word "Rapture" can be found in the Bible. If you were wondering yourself just where one can find the exact reference — read on!

Dr. Reagan: When I think of the promises of God, I always think of something the Apostle Paul wrote in 1 Corinthians 2:9. He wrote, "No eye has seen, no ear has heard, nor has the mind of man conceived what God has prepared for those who love Him." But, the next verse says, "God has revealed those things to us through His Holy Spirit." That revelation is, of course, contained in the Bible.

One of the greatest promises of God's Word is that one day soon He will send His Son for His Church. Jesus will appear in the heavens. His appearance will be heralded by the shout of an archangel and the blowing of a trumpet. The dead in Christ will be resurrected and those living who have put their faith in Jesus will be caught up to meet Him in the sky, being translated en route from mortal to immortal. This promise is called the Rapture.

I have found that the moment you start talking about the Rapture people always seem to jump down your throat and say, "Ah, come on, that is a concept that is not even in the Bible. You can't find it anywhere in the Bible." What about it?

Nathan Jones: They haven't read 1 Thessalonians 4:17. Now, in our modern English versions the verse will say "caught up." The Bible wasn't written in English, though, it was written in Hebrew and Aramaic and Greek. In the original Greek 1 Thessalonians 4:17's "caught up" is harpazo. For 1500 years we had the Latin Vulgate translation of the Scriptures before the English version, and that version has the Latin word for harpazo as rapio (or rapiemur or raptus depending on the declension), where we get the word "rapture."

The idea behind the reference to the Rapture in 1 Thessalonians 4:17 is to be caught up, snatched up, taken away. The act is similar to me going to Papa John's and snatching up that pizza and taking it away home — same meaning.

Dr. Reagan: Well, you are so exactly right, the concept is certainly there. I mean, you could talk about the fact that the word "trinity" is not in the Bible.

Nathan Jones: Well, the word "Bible" is not in the Bible.

Dr. Reagan: The word's "Shekinah Glory" of God is not there in our English translations. But, those are terms that we have developed to express a truth that is in there. Clearly the Trinity is a truth that is in the Bible. The Skekinah is a truth that is in the Bible. The Rapture is a truth that is in the Bible. But, in this case of the Rapture, the word really is in there, it's just been translated.

Nathan Jones: It is so much easier to say "Rapture" than "The Great Catching Up" or "The Great Taking Away."

Dr. Reagan: In English we have to use a term like "taking out, snatching away, catching up," and we all like to talk in shorthand. So, what we have done is just go back and pick up the Latin word rapio, put it into English as "rapture," and that word is actually there in 1 Thessalonians 4 using the only translation we had for 1,500 years, which was the Latin Vulgate. That was the translation that says the Rapture. So, that is what we use.

"Rapture" is a biblical term and it is a biblical concept. People who say it is not just simply do not understand what's going on in the text. End of Quote
Did you read and understand that last sentence, the rapture is a Biblical term, when there quite clearly is no mention anywhere in the Bible of the term rapture this nonsense about the actual word not being there due to a misunderstanding relative to the translation from the Hebrew to the Greek is nothing more than a pure fantasy.

Then he went on to say that "The rapture is a Biblical concept when there is no mention anywhere in the Bible of Christians suddenly being whisked off the face of the earth to be taken up into Heaven without having to pass from this life to the next one first.

If there is anyone that is reading this, anywhere around the globe, that can show me a verse, any verse, that says that the we/Christians are suddenly going to vanish off the face of the earth travel to travel out of this world and into Heaven without having to die first, then I will be quite happy to send them a cheque for a thousand dollars.

Nonetheless they won't be able to show me any such verse simply because it is not there, so there is not much possibility that I am going to lose my thousand dollars.

Certainly, there are verse in the Bible that say that on the Day of the Lord the dead in Christ will be raised and we that are alive will be caught up to meet the Lord in the air, but that still does not infer that those that are going to be caught up are going to be taken out of this world and into Heaven to be with the Lord forever.

So why not use the term CAUGHT UP instead of saying RAPTURE, which has entirely different connotations altogether and as a consequence places an entirely different slant on what the word of God was telling us?

Clearly, the rapture doctrine is nothing more than a very cleverly designed tool of Satan that has obviously been designed to lead the unsuspecting onto eternal damnation.

Saturday, November 6, 2010

The 2012 predications - pure scaremongering at its best...

The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse

Are the four horsemen of the Apocalypse already riding their horses on the loose and amongst the nations of the world today?

There are a growing number of Bible scholars that think they may be?

My view is that no, they have not mounted their steeds to take the final rides that will spell the end of mankind's existence here on the earth; not yet anyway, but that is not to say that those dire circumstances may already be nigh on already at hand even if they are not quite here just yet.

There still may be a lot more of the Bible prophecies that have yet to be fulfilled before we can say that terrible time is right on our doorsteps.

The White Horse
The Antichrist is revealed as he rubber stamps a seven year covenant between Israel and the Arab states in the Middle East.

Red HorseThe Antichrist is given a large sword meaning a large army, that would be equal or greater than any other army on the face of the earth. He then sets out to start and win an apocalyptic third world war.

The Black HorseAfter the war the world is racked by famine and plague the likes of which mankind has never witnessed before, or will never witness again, as a result the Antichrist takes control of the food and dishes it out to those that he wants to live, at the same time denying it to those that he wishes to see die from starvation.

The Pale Horse
There are some Christians and Jews that will resist the Antichrist as well as a few others of various denominations. As a result the Antichrist sets out to kill and destroy those that will not be subversive to his commandments by taking his mark.

Everyone is familiar with the current 2012 doomsday predictions. In December of 2012, the Mesoamerican Long Count calendar, which was used by several Pre-Columbian Mesoamerican cultures, will reach the end of its 13th baktun.

People have predicted that this indicates that a massive geological event will occur on Earth. There are many theories surrounding the sun, space and the 2012 severe weather patterns. Put yourself in the place of a high level government official.

If you had direct information that a cataclysmic event was approaching Earth, would you suppress it from the public or announce it?

The obvious answer is to hide it and secretly prepare for a response, but that does still not give us any indication whatsoever that there is indeed anything of real significance that is going to happen in 2012 that one could consider to be out of the ordinary.

But how does this date setting of 2012 tie in with the Bible prophecies mentioned above relating to the most terrible time that is ever to befall mankind during the terrible reign of the Antichrist.

The answer to that is as plain and simple as the nose on your face - it simply doesn't.

There is nothing in the word of the maker of the living God, the Holy Bible, that has ever mentioned anything about a date, or date setting for specific events to take place, and neither should the Born Again Christian believer be concerned with the setting of dates for the timing of explicit events to take place such as predicating the end of the world in 2012.

Basically, we are simply not privileged to know this type of information so just forget all about the scaremongering attached to this 2012 end times scenario and get on with living your life by taking one day at a time.

Friday, November 5, 2010

How the Australian people are being prepared for the time of the Black Horse of Revelation Chapter 6...

Hot off the presses I have the latest, and may I say the maddest, idea yet to come from those the planners behind a World Government. This is real New World Order agenda type of paraphernalia that has clearly been very clearly designed to gain the greatest control over, not just those living and working in Australia, but everyone right around the globe.

If you read the following article then you will know what I am referring to when I say the maddest idea yet, because that's what we are being confronted with here in this latest effort to gain total control over every aspect of the lives of every Australian, and eventually everyone right around the world from the cradle to the grave.

If you thought that the Mark of the Beast was total control, then what they are suggesting here is right up with that form of dictatorship, but only worse if that could at all be possible, with the plan being to ration our food with the obvious implications being that if we do not do as we are told then we will not be fed?

This plan has the more than obvious connotations of being specifically designed so that once the Antichrist gets a hold of it he will be able to have everyone where he wants them, right under his thumb so that he will be able to charge whatever he likes for the food.

Remember what Henry Kissinger said - if you control the energy then you control the nations and if you control the food then you control the individuals of those nations?

Right now there are plans afoot to introduce a carbon tax over here is Australia so that is sure to double the price of basic household utilities within a very short period of time, and now with this latest idea of a green ration card (which of course will later on be transferred over to the microchip implant) they almost have the general populace right where they want them, completely screwed, if you pardon the expression?

There is no doubt that this has been mentioned in the Bible thousands of years ago when we were told in the book of Revelations that the Antichrist will ride a Black Horse as he sets about to gain total control of the food, and then dishes it out to those that he wants to live, and in turn denies it to those that he wants to starve to death.

The Third Seal: The Black Horse
5 When He opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, "Come and see." So I looked, and behold, a black horse, and he who sat on it had a pair of scales in his hand.
6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four living creatures saying, "A quart of wheat for a denarius, and three quarts of barley for a denarius; and do not harm the oil and the wine."
Revelation 6:5-6 Third Seal Following the Red horse, we see a black horse this event follows the chronological order of events taking place on earth. Following a nuclear war, several events take place, one is nuclear fallout and destruction of edible foods. Nuclear was does not only hurt living humans, but everything living. Food and food supplies are destroyed in the process of nuclear war as the radioactive waves pass through all living matter. This is then followed by the particles which then begin to a fall on fields where food is growing to feed the populations.

Black horse The third horse pictured is a black horse, which is used to depict famine elsewhere in scripture. (Jeremiah 4:28, Lamentations 4;8-9). Following the war, food will be in short supply on the planet and many will die.

Scales This is the picture of commerce in the world. Today, the idol of the earth is no longer socialist doctrines but capitalism and success without God. Many in the former Communist nations no longer look to Communism as their hope but the success and prosperity of Capitalism. Nations on the earth are pushing commerce and success as the hope of their nations. Godless capitalism, is a growing movement in the world today.

The hope of success for the most part is a godless and corrupt hope, which pushes sex without marriage, homosexuality, violence, murder and host of other sins. Many of these same countries reluctantly accept Christian missionaries and evangelism as an appeasement for free trade. The Gospel however continues to give people a choice, what really is important.

In the tribulation period, people will be forced to choose the God of Heaven or humanity.

Quart of wheat The Greek word used here, coi'nix Choinix, is the amount of food a laboring man would eat in one meal. Wheat was is a higher quality food then barley. The cost of wheat was one days wages, or a denarius. Following the wars of the Red horse, the lack of food will cause world wide inflation resulting in famine.

The voice is coming from the center of the Throne, from the midst of the four living creatures. This could very well be the voice of Christ, reminding those who live on the Earth through Revelation chapter 6, that earthly food and commerce is not humanities hope but God’s word alone. This is the message in John chapter 6, as Christ explains the concept of eternal life versus the temporary life in this world.

33 "For the bread of God is He who comes down from heaven and gives life to the world." 34 Then they said to Him, "Lord, give us this bread always." 35 And Jesus said to them, "I am the bread of life. He who comes to Me shall never hunger, and he who believes in Me shall never thirst. John 6:33-35

Denarius An amount equivalent to what a day laborer would make. (Matthew 20:2) A full day of labor was required to have enough to eat for one day.

Three quarts barley This was a lower quality food then wheat. Barley, was food for animals and the poor. Here the same denarius will purchase 3 meals of barley versus one meal of wheat.

Oil and the wine These were foods of luxury and wealth. These items are contrasted to the wheat and barley, which require a whole days labor. The wealthy will not suffer like those who will need food to get by on a daily basis.

Now read the following article to see what I am referring to when I say that the Australian people are being psychologically prepared for the time of the Black Horse of Revelation

Quote: Norfolk Island green ration is ludicrous

SO you think I exaggerate when I say global warming is just the latest cause of the closet totalitarian?

Then pay close attention to an experiment the warmists are about to inflict on the people of Norfolk Island.

Be warned. What's being trialled there with $390,000 of Gillard Government money may, if it works, be spread to the mainland, say the researchers.

Which means it's coming for you.

The plan - and, no, I'm not joking - is to put Norfolk Islanders on rations to fight both global warming and obesity.

Funded by the Australian Research Council, and approved by the Socialist Left Science Minister Kim Carr, researchers from the Southern Cross University will give each volunteer on the island a "carbon card".

Every time they buy petrol, electricity or an air flight, they will have "carbon units" deducted from the fixed allowance on their card.

More units will be lost each time they buy fatty foods, or produce flown in from a long way away.

If, at the end of each year or so, they have carbon units left over, they can sell them. If they've blown their allocation, they must buy more.

But each year, the number of carbon units in this market will be cut, causing their price to soar - and thus the price of extra food, power and petrol to rise - because the idea is to cut greenhouse gases and make Norfolk Islanders trim, taut and terrifically moral.

Conservatives well aware of human fallibility will immediately spot the obvious flaw in this latest scheme of the Left to remake humanity.


It's this: what happens when people run out of their carbon rations, and can't afford the extra units they need to buy more fuel, power or even food?

This is precisely what I put this week to Garry Egger, head of this experiment and professor of Lifestyle Medicine and Applied Health Promotion at SCU.

His response was astonishing and revealing, because this basic question - which so exposes the teeth of the totalitarian - would have been one you'd think he'd long wrestled with.

After all, his personal carbon trading idea is not new, so much does it appeal to the fingerwaggers and bullies infesting the global warming faith.

As far back as 2006, Britain's then environmental minister, David Miliband, proposed a similar scheme, since endorsed by the Environment Agency and House of Commons

Environmental Audit Committee, which even insisted the Government defy howls of protest from mere voters.

"Widespread public acceptance, while desirable, should not be a pre-condition for a personal carbon trading scheme; the need to reduce emissions is simply too urgent," the MPs said, before being driven off to dinner.

(Or as our own Professor Clive Hamilton, author and former Greens candidate, puts it, global warming is so "horrible" that leaders must look to "canvassing of emergency responses such as the suspension of democratic processes".)

Nor is Egger's idea new in Australia, The farcical "ideas summit" of prime minister Kevin Rudd's 1000 "best and brightest" Australians also recommended it - which is a very good reason to be alert and alarmed.

"We have the technology now to create a 'carbon account' for individuals," says the summit's report, in between appeals for chairbound workers to be given 30 minutes a day of exercise and stairs to climb at work.

Yet although carbon rationing plans have been kicked around for years by the Left, that key question of the conservative has still not been answered. As in: what if people don't want to live your dream? What if they rebel, or merely fail you?

Let's go to the transcript of my interview with Egger on MTR 1377 this week, to see how he answered.

Me: What happens to those people who overdraw their carbon emissions ...

Egger: In the first year you are just warned ... (Later) if you overspend, you've got to buy the units that are cashed in ...

Me: If you put this in on the mainland and you were really strict about it - you really thought the world was warming very, very dangerously and someone exceeded their rations of these carbon units - one would presume that you would make food, for example, too expensive for them to buy.

Egger: That's right ... so if you've got, for example, a very fatty unhealthy food that is imported from overseas which takes a lot of carbon to develop it, then the price would go up ...

Me: What happens to a very fat family, a very irresponsibly fat family, and they've blown their carbon budget to the scheissenhausen and you've made their food terribly expensive? What about the kids? They go to breakfast and they've got one baked bean?

Egger: In general you'll find that in a very fat family they are low-income earners ... so those people would actually benefit from a scheme like this because the food that they buy, the energy that they use, they don't use as much energy as the rich anyway ...

Me: But what happens? Their ration of carbon credits runs out and you've made food too expensive for them to buy. What happens to them?

Egger: Again, they get money back from doing the right thing.

Me: No, but they've done the wrong thing. That's why they are fat and poor. They've done the wrong thing, they've run out of their carbon credits. What are you going to do to them then, when the food's too expensive to buy?

Egger: There are going to be personal cases like this that need to be worked out and they need to be worked out in the tax system as well as in the carbon credits system.

Egger, founder of GutBusters, undoubtedly means to do good. He has no wish to see children starve.

YET I think we have here an insight into a key failing of so many grand schemes of the Left to improve resistant humans or build for them someone else's idea of the perfect society.

These schemes so often are too perfect for the flawed humans they supposedly serve. But it's the humans who must then adapt to the system, and not the other way around. Which is where some force is required; some democracy sacrificed.

What a buzz for the closet totalitarian then, to bully other people "for their own good" - in this case, to "save the planet".

When the cause is so just, which planet-saver could let some contemptible fatty stand in their way, begging for the carbon credits to feed their chubby children?

On the other hand, which planet-saver would deny themselves any aid or comfort in this great struggle?

Need an illustration of what I'm talking about? Egger himself plans to jet off to Mexico next month to boast to a United Nations global warming conference how he persuaded Norfolk Islanders to ration just such joy flights for themselves.

This is your future coming right at you, folks. Best you realise it's no longer a joke. End of Quote

Thursday, November 4, 2010

The newly appointed president of the European Union Council of Ministers a Jesuit

All of this time I thought that the Freemasons had the game sown up with their evil intents and desires for global dominance, but this crowd makes the masons look relatively tame by comparison.

If you read their extreme oath as I have reformatted it below you will understand that I am referring to the Jesuits.

When it is taken into consideration that he is a Jesuit this information also adds fuel to the continuing and growing supposition that I still suspect the newly appointed president of the European Union Council of Ministers, Herman Van Rompuy as being the Beast of Revelation

Extreme Oath of the Jesuits

When a Jesuit of the minor rank is to be elevated to command, he is conducted into the Chapel of the Convent of the Order, where there are only three others present, the Principal or Superior standing in front of the altar. On either side stands a monk, one of whom holds a banner of yellow and white, which are the Papal colours, and the other a black banner with a dagger and red cross above a skull and crossbones, with the word INRI, and below them the words IUSTUM, NECAR, REGES, IMPIOUS. The meaning of which is: It is just to exterminate or annihilate impious or heretical Kings, Governments, or Rulers. Upon the floor is a red cross at which the postulant or candidate kneels. The Superior hands him a small black crucifix, which he takes in his left hand and presses to his heart, and the Superior at the same time presents to him a dagger, which he grasps by the blade and holds the point against his heart, the Superior still holding it by the hilt, and thus addresses the postulant:

Superior: My son, heretofore you have been taught to act the dissembler: among Roman Catholics to be a Roman Catholic, and to be a spy even among your own brethren; to believe no man, to trust no man. Among the Reformers, to be a reformer; among the Huguenots, to be a Huguenot; among the Calvinists, to be a Calvinist; among other Protestants, generally to be a Protestant, and obtaining their confidence, to seek even to preach from their pulpits, and to denounce with all the vehemence in your nature our Holy Religion and the Pope; and even to descend so low as to become a Jew among Jews, that you might be enabled to gather together all information for the benefit of your Order as a faithful soldier of the Pope.
You have been taught to insidiously plant the seeds of jealousy and hatred between communities, provinces, states that were at peace, and incite them to deeds of blood, involving them in war with each other, and to create revolutions and civil wars in countries that were independent and prosperous, cultivating the arts and the sciences and enjoying the blessings of peace. To take sides with the combatants and to act secretly with your brother Jesuit, who might be engaged on the other side, but openly oppose to that with which you might be connected, only that the Church might be the gainer in the end, in the conditions fixed in the treaties for peace and that the end justifies the means.

You have been taught your duty as a spy, to gather all statistics, facts and information in your power from every source; to ingratiate yourself into the confidence of the family circle of Protestants and heretics of every class and character, as well as that of the merchant, the banker, the lawyer, among the schools and universities, in parliaments and legislatures, and the judiciaries and councils of state, and to be all things to all men, for the Pope's sake, whose servants we are unto death. You have received all your instructions heretofore as a novice, a neophyte, and have served as co-adjurer, confessor and priest, but you have not yet been invested with all that is necessary to command in the Army of Loyola in the service of the Pope. You must serve the proper time as the instrument and executioner as directed by your superiors; for none can command here who has not consecrated his labours with the blood of the heretic; for "without the shedding of blood no man can be saved." Therefore, to fit yourself for your work and make your own salvation sure, you will, in addition to your former oath of obedience to your order and allegiance to the Pope, repeat after me--

"I, ________ now, in the presence of Almighty God, the Blessed Virgin Mary, the blessed Michael the Archangel, the blessed St. John the Baptist, the holy Apostles St. Peter and St. Paul and all the saints and sacred hosts of heaven, and to you, my ghostly father, the Superior General of the Society of Jesus, founded by St. Ignatius Loyola in the Pontificate of Paul the Third, and continued to the present, do, by the womb of the virgin, the matrix of God, and the rod of Jesus Christ, declare and swear, that his holiness the Pope is Christ's Vice-regent and is the true and only head of the Catholic or Universal Church throughout the earth; and that by virtue of the keys of binding and loosing, given to his Holiness by my Savior, Jesus Christ, he hath power to depose heretical kings, princes, states, commonwealths and governments, all being illegal without his sacred confirmation and that they may safely be destroyed. Therefore, to the utmost of my power I shall and will defend this doctrine of his Holiness' right and custom against all usurpers of the heretical or Protestant authority whatever, especially the Lutheran of Germany, Holland, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, and the now pretended authority and churches of England and Scotland, and branches of the same now established in Ireland and on the Continent of America and elsewhere; and all adherents in regard that they be usurped and heretical, opposing the sacred Mother Church of Rome. I do now renounce and disown any allegiance as due to any heretical king, prince or state named Protestants or Liberals, or obedience to any of the laws, magistrates or officers.

I do further declare that the doctrine of the churches of England and Scotland, of the Calvinists, Huguenots and others of the name Protestants or Liberals to be damnable and they themselves damned who will not forsake the same.

I do further declare, that I will help, assist, and advise all or any of his Holiness' agents in any place wherever I shall be, in Switzerland, Germany, Holland, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, England, Ireland or America, or in any other Kingdom or territory I shall come to, and do my uttermost to extirpate the heretical Protestants or Liberals' doctrines and to destroy all their pretended powers, regal or otherwise.

I do further promise and declare, that notwithstanding I am dispensed with, to assume my religion heretical, for the propaganda of the Mother Church's interest, to keep secret and private all her agents' counsels from time to time, as they may entrust me and not to divulge, directly or indirectly, by word, writing or circumstance whatever; but to execute all that shall be proposed, given in charge or discovered unto me, by you, my ghostly father, or any of this sacred covenant.

I do further promise and declare, that I will have no opinion or will of my own, or any mental reservation whatever, even as a corpse or cadaver (perinde ac cadaver), but will unhesitatingly obey each and every command that I may receive from my superiors in the Militia of the Pope and of Jesus Christ. That I may go to any part of the world wither soever I may be sent, to the frozen regions of the North, the burning sands of the desert of Africa, or the jungles of India, to the centres of civilization of Europe, or to the wild haunts of the barbarous savages of America, without murmuring or repining, and will be submissive in all things whatsoever communicated to me.

I furthermore promise and declare that I will, when opportunity present, make and wage relentless war, secretly or openly, against all heretics, Protestants and Liberals, as I am directed to do, to extirpate and exterminate them from the face of the whole earth; and that I will spare neither age, sex or condition; and that I will hang, waste, boil, flay, strangle and bury alive these infamous heretics, rip up the stomachs and wombs of their women and crush their infants' heads against the walls, in order to annihilate forever their execrable race. That when the same cannot be done openly, I will secretly use the poisoned cup, the strangulating cord, the steel of the poniard or the leaden bullet, regardless of the honour, rank, dignity, or authority of the person or persons, whatever may be their condition in life, either public or private, as I at any time may be directed so to do by any agent of the Pope or Superior of the Brotherhood of the Holy Faith, of the Society of Jesus.

In confirmation of which, I hereby dedicate my life, my soul and all my corporal powers, and with this dagger which I now receive, I will subscribe my name written in my own blood, in testimony thereof; and should I prove false or weaken in my determination, may my brethren and fellow soldiers of the Militia of the Pope cut off my hands and my feet, and my throat from ear to ear, my belly opened and sulphur burned therein, with all the punishment that can be inflicted upon me on earth and my soul be tortured by demons in an eternal hell forever!

All of which, I, ________, do swear by the Blessed Trinity and blessed Sacraments, which I am now to receive, to perform and on my part to keep inviolable; and do call all the heavenly and glorious host of heaven to witness the blessed Sacrament of the Eucharist, and witness the same further with my name written and with the point of this dagger dipped in my own blood and sealed in the face of this holy covenant."

(He receives the wafer from the Superior and writes his name with the point of his dagger dipped in his own blood taken from over his heart.)

Superior: You will now rise to your feet and I will instruct you in the Catechism necessary to make yourself known to any member of the Society of Jesus belonging to this rank. In the first place, you, as a Brother Jesuit, will with another mutually make the ordinary sign of the cross as any ordinary Roman Catholic would; then one cross his wrists, the palms of his hands open, and the other in answer crosses his feet, one above the other; the first points with forefinger of the right hand to the centre of the palm of the left, the other with the forefinger of the left hand points to the centre of the palm of the right; the first then with his right hand makes a circle around his head, touching it; the other then with the forefinger of his left hand touches the left side of his body just below his heart; the first then with his right hand draws it across the throat of the other, and the latter then with a dagger down the stomach and abdomen of the first. The first then says Iustum; and the other answers Necar; the first Reges. The other answers Impious." (The meaning of which has already been explained.) "The first will then present a small piece of paper folded in a peculiar manner, four times, which the other will cut longitudinally and on opening the name Jesu will be found written upon the head and arms of a cross three times. You will then give and receive with him the following questions and answers:

Question —From whither do you come?
Answer — The Holy faith.
Q. —Whom do you serve?
A. —The Holy Father at Rome, the Pope, and the Roman Catholic Church Universal throughout the world.
Q. —Who commands you?
A. —The Successor of St. Ignatius Loyola, the founder of the Society of Jesus or the Soldiers of Jesus Christ.
Q. —Who received you?
A. —A venerable man in white hair.
Q. —How?
A. —With a naked dagger, I kneeling upon the cross beneath the banners of the Pope and of our sacred order.
Q. —Did you take an oath?
A. —I did, to destroy heretics and their governments and rulers, and to spare neither age, sex nor condition. To be as a corpse without any opinion or will of my own, but to implicitly obey my Superiors in all things without hesitation of murmuring.
Q. —Will you do that?
A. —I will.
Q. —How do you travel?
A. —In the bark of Peter the fisherman.
Q. —Whither do you travel?
A. —To the four quarters of the globe.
Q. —For what purpose?
A. —To obey the orders of my general and Superiors and execute the will of the Pope and faithfully fulfill the conditions of my oaths.

Has the entire British Police Force been MICROCHIPPED?

There is news that has come to my attention that is so shocking and so unbelievable that I really felt the urgent need to pass on to those that will take the time to read the following.

While surfing the Internet the other day I happened to come across an article that went back to 2008 that suggested that the British police force were all going to be microchiped.

Even though I was not able to verify if in fact the microchipping had taken place, if the intent was there by the heads of the force then it seems more than likely that it has already taken place, and indeed the entirety of the police force in Britain has taken the Mark of the Beast.

REVELATION CHAPTER 13: VERSES 16 TO 1816 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 and that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
This does not mean that they have taken the mark in their day to day garments that they are quite easily able to discard at the end of the day but that they had literally taken the mark under their skins and in their bodies.

For those that have any understanding of the scriptures at all what this means is that those 32,000 souls that have taken this insidious system have sworn allegiance to the Antichrist and condemned themselves to an eternity of torment in the depths of Hell.

REVELATION CHAPTER 14: VERSES 9 TO 139 Then another angel, a third one, followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand,
10 he also will drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is mixed in full strength in the cup of His anger; and he will be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb.
11 “And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever; they have no rest day and night, those who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.”
12 Here is the perseverance of the saints who keep the commandments of God and their faith in Jesus.
13 And I heard a voice from heaven, saying, “Write, ‘Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on!’” “Yes,” says the Spirit, “so that they may rest from their labors, for their deeds follow with them.”
Of course, this news also plays into the hands of those conspiracy theorists who believe that the Prince of Wales is the Antichrist.

That is not to say that he is not the Beast of Revelation but the real truth relative to that matter will not be known until we find out just who is going to confirm the seven year covenant between the Jews and the Arabs in the Middle East.

There are also rumours that are floating around the Internet that Prince William also has had a microchip implant inserted under his skin so as to prevent him from being kidnapped as a very small child so that he could have been easily located if that were ever to happen.

There are no doubts at all that the implications for the Mark of the Beast money system for buying and selling is a lot closer than what anyone could have ever imagined

Quote: Met Police officers to be 'microchipped' by top brass in Big Brother style tracking scheme
Met Chief Sir Ian Blair could be among 31,000 officers to receive the new electronic tracking device.

Every single Metropolitan police officer will be 'microchipped' so top brass can monitor their movements on a Big Brother style tracking scheme, it can be revealed today.

According to respected industry magazine Police Review, the plan - which affects all 31,000 serving officers in the Met, including Sir Ian Blair - is set to replace the unreliable Airwave radio system currently used to help monitor officer's movements.

The new electronic tracking device - called the Automated Personal Location System (APLS) - means that officers will never be out of range of supervising officers.

But many serving officers fear being turned into "Robocops" - controlled by bosses who have not been out on the beat in years.

According to service providers Telent, the new technology 'will enable operators in the Service's operations centres to identify the location of each police officer' at any time they are on duty - whether overground or underground.

Although police chiefs say the new technology is about 'improving officer safety' and reacting to incidents more quickly, many rank and file believe it is just a Big Brother style system to keep tabs on them and make sure they don't 'doze off on duty'.

Some officers are concerned that the system - which will be able to pinpoint any of the 31,000 officers in the Met to within a few feet of their location - will put a complete end to community policing and leave officers purely at the beck and call of control room staff rather than reacting to members of the public on the ground.

Pete Smyth, chairman of the Met Police Federation, said: "This could be very good for officers' safety but it could also involve an element of Big Brother.

"We need to look at it very carefully."

Other officers, however, were more scathing, saying the new system - set to be implemented within the next few weeks - will turn them into 'Robocops' simply obeying instructions from above rather than using their own judgement.

One officer, working in Peckham, south London, said: "They are keeping the exact workings of the system very hush-hush at the moment - although it will be similar to the way criminals are electronically tagged. There will not be any choice about wearing one.

"We depend on our own ability and local knowledge to react to situations accordingly.

"Obviously we need the back up and information from control, but a lot of us feel that we will simply be used as machines, or robots, to do what we are told with little or no chance to put in anything ourselves."

He added: "Most of us joined up so we could apply the law and think for ourselves, but if Sarge knows where we are every second of the day it just makes it difficult."

Another officer, who did not want to be named, said: "A lot of my time is spent speaking to people in cafes, parks or just wherever I'm approached. If I feel I've got my chief breathing down my neck to make another arrest I won't feel I'm doing my job properly."

The system is one of the largest of its kind in the world, according to Telent, the company behind the technology, although neither the Met nor Telent would provide Police Review with any more information about exactly how the system will work or what sort of devices officers will wear.

Nigel Lee, a workstream manager at the Met, said: "Safety is a primary concern for all police forces.

"The area served by our force covers 620 miles and knowing the location of our officers means that not only can we provision resource more quickly, but should an officer need assistance, we can get to them even more quickly."

Forces currently have the facility to track all their officers through GPS devices on their Airwave radio headsets, but this is subject to headsets being up to date and forces buying the back office systems to accompany them, according to Airwave.

Steve Rands, health and safety head for the Met Police Federation, told Police Review:

"This is so that we know where officers are. Let us say that when voice distortion or sound quality over the radio is lost, if you cannot hear where that officer telling you where he is, you can still pinpoint his exact position by global positioning system.

"If he needs help but you cannot hear him for whatever reason, APLS will say where he is." End of Quote